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Author Topic: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016  (Read 8028 times)

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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #60 on: October 20, 2021, 10:21:59 PM »
That's right! S'mon likes 4e...

FUCK THAT DUDE!!

 :-*

Run for it S'mon!  I'll divert them with my enjoyment of country music.  Wait, that might have worked too well. :D


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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #62 on: October 20, 2021, 11:52:09 PM »
That's right! S'mon likes 4e...

FUCK THAT DUDE!!

 :-*

Run for it S'mon!  I'll divert them with my enjoyment of country music.  Wait, that might have worked too well. :D
Old Country or New Country?

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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2021, 12:22:53 AM »
Because a lot of the people who are called SJWs on this board are old school 90s liberals, moderates, right wingers who disagree on a few points, or people who don't fit on the very limited left-right political spectrum. That's not attacking SJWs. It's forming a gang and attacking anyone who doesn't show the right colors at all times.

I think there's a fair bit of truth in this, though it is hardly ubiquitous behaviour. It doesn't really bother me when I get targeted for being too Liberal, though - just like it was funny when my sis called me a Fascist when I scolded her for not vaxxing and then getting Covid right before my mum's memorial service. It's not scary - I'm not in any danger. Whereas being called right-wing can ruin your life - my ex tried this to stop me getting equal child custody, it failed miserably but it was still scary.

I expect some abuse here for liking 4e D&D, likewise I expect some abuse for being a nice reasonable moderate chap :D - it's all good.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you liking 4E.  I own many of the books myself, but I don't want to play that ruleset.  There's some inspiration there; especially in the Monster Manuals, and Dark Sun Creature Catalog.  Maybe the Manual of the Planes, as well.
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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #64 on: October 21, 2021, 12:40:35 AM »
Greetings!

Fuck 4E. 4E can die in a white-hot fire with the intensity of a thousand suns!

The God Emperor shall cleanse the land of all the heretics! ;D

Oh, and S'mon!? The Ghost of fucking Cromwell is coming for you, for certain. Ye shall confess your sins and wicked heresy, and repent! ;D

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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #65 on: October 21, 2021, 08:11:16 AM »
Old Country or New Country?

Some old, some new, some traditional, some "southern rock", Bakersfield, bluegrass, "Outlaw",--even the occasional country pop if produced well or funny or the singer can sing. Just no country rap or "bro" country or most of the psychotic stuff.

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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #66 on: October 21, 2021, 09:33:11 AM »
Old Country or New Country?

Some old, some new, some traditional, some "southern rock", Bakersfield, bluegrass, "Outlaw",--even the occasional country pop if produced well or funny or the singer can sing. Just no country rap or "bro" country or most of the psychotic stuff.

Who's your favorite Hank? 😉

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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #67 on: October 21, 2021, 10:17:55 AM »
Old Country or New Country?

Some old, some new, some traditional, some "southern rock", Bakersfield, bluegrass, "Outlaw",--even the occasional country pop if produced well or funny or the singer can sing. Just no country rap or "bro" country or most of the psychotic stuff.

Who's your favorite Hank? 😉
Hank Venture is my clear favorite.

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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #68 on: October 26, 2021, 01:07:43 PM »
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This board is beginning to feel more like an echo chamber, where people can't tolerate any dissent. It's the same disease that killed any rational discussion in many leftist circles.

Dunno, like last IP discussion was dominated vastly by various strain of libertarians, and it went utterly wonky over detail differences between various groups within libertarian movement.
Then simmilarily left hates dissidents and leftbook discussions are often full of agressive shitstorm between various left, and often new and new groups split because of it.
But that's not really echo chambering. But it was not ration discussion either.

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Wait, why is Cromwell ghost's doing papist stuff? I'm so confused!


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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #69 on: October 26, 2021, 06:43:30 PM »
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This board is beginning to feel more like an echo chamber, where people can't tolerate any dissent. It's the same disease that killed any rational discussion in many leftist circles.

Dunno, like last IP discussion was dominated vastly by various strain of libertarians, and it went utterly wonky over detail differences between various groups within libertarian movement.
Then simmilarily left hates dissidents and leftbook discussions are often full of agressive shitstorm between various left, and often new and new groups split because of it.
But that's not really echo chambering. But it was not ration discussion either.
That's exactly how echo chambers are created. Irrationally and aggressively shout down anyone who disagrees.

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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #70 on: October 26, 2021, 08:11:04 PM »
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This board is beginning to feel more like an echo chamber, where people can't tolerate any dissent. It's the same disease that killed any rational discussion in many leftist circles.

Dunno, like last IP discussion was dominated vastly by various strain of libertarians, and it went utterly wonky over detail differences between various groups within libertarian movement.
Then simmilarily left hates dissidents and leftbook discussions are often full of agressive shitstorm between various left, and often new and new groups split because of it.
But that's not really echo chambering. But it was not ration discussion either.
That's exactly how echo chambers are created. Irrationally and aggressively shout down anyone who disagrees.

Look Pat for the last time, everyone already agreed that it is not an echo chamber and that any outsider who thinks it is should just bugger off.
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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2021, 11:23:27 AM »
I am impressed to your commitment @Happy. It doesn't matter how many people explain it to you, or offer our direct experience, or show ways we've been actively harmed / impacted. You just laugh at / insult anyone who disagrees with your narrative.

As I've stated elsewhere I'm a liberal who was recently, and unwillingly redpilled. When you start having opportunities taken away because of the color of your skin, and your gender, you sit up and take notice. I am an author. I make my living selling books. This hit me hard and personally.

Here's the list of things off the top of my head we've lost of late

- We lost the Hugos
- We lost the nebulas
- Ghostbusters 2016 blatantly crapped all over men, and was embraced
- Supergirl, the Flash, and all the other DC properties are vehicles for activism and don't even pretend to have a story any more
- Superman is bisexual
- Most of the big conventions are now more concerned with microaggressions than content
- D&D just jettisoned age, height, and weight. How does that not penetrate your cloud of cognitive dissonance?
- Magic cards like Stone Throwing Devils have been banned with no stated justification.
- Luke Skywalker is a washed up old hermit who betrayed everything he taught us to believe in growing up
- The skin color and gender of the vast majority of people who played and built this hobby is now literally problematic. You know this is the case, or you're willfully blind. I have lost speaking gigs and podcast interviews, and they've been candid that immutable characteristics are the reason why.
- Actor friends are being told that they're not a good fit...because of their skin color.

I could go on, and on, and on, but I feel like you'd just go down the list and discredit each, or more likely, fire back an insult and a dismissal because your cognitive dissonance demands you look away from the truth.

Our culture is being engineered. George Orwell posited that if the first half of the 21st century was about technical engineering, then the second half would be about social engineering, and that after that would come world domination. Whether it's 1984, or A Brave New World, we're not going to like the outcome.

You can remain willfully blind, but too many people here have seen too much for your nonsense to gain any traction. Keep trying though. It's fun to watch.

Bro, Friar Tuck, Achilles, and Guinevere were black. The BBC told me this. I saw it on TV. Don't know why you can't get with the times. It's 2021. /s



I didn't know about the age/height/weight thing. Can you send me a link for that? I would like to see this train wreck.

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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #72 on: November 10, 2021, 08:13:15 AM »
I said I bet he wouldn't be brave enough to talk like that in person, which is a form of escalation. He responded by saying come at my bro, which is also escalation. Every post from him has been aggressive, dismissive, and patronizing. He pities us. We have our heads up our asses.

You can't speak to people like that. Too many of us have had too much of it, and we aren't going to sit down and take it any more. That's not a threat of violence. That's a bear who has been poked too many times. We're not backing away. We're not turning the other cheek. We're answering tone with tone.

If Happy wants to be a patronizing prick, then I will be a bigger patronizing prick. If Happy is actually capable of communicating like an adult, I could go that route too. Their post history suggest they are not.

Here is a solution for you Chris.  Go to Profile, Modify Profile, Buddies/Ignore, and then Ignore.  Do yourself a favor and put Happy into the shadow zone.  Don't feel bad about it because at this point talking to a wall is more constructive.

As for RPGs I highly suggest looking into the RPG lists and buy a green product.

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Re: Considering getting back into TTRPGs, Out of them since 2016
« Reply #73 on: November 10, 2021, 08:08:01 PM »
Please stick to the topic. Though given that the OP never actually ever responded to his own very personal topic, I'm not sure there's much point.
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