Best casting of Haste ever. Wizard cast it on a swam of giant wasps, big 5HD things, the size of dogs, with poison stings. The wasps hasted aged and all died as the lifespan of a Wasp is measured in weeks.

As DM I had to roll with it as it was a great move.

Like I said he's barking up the wrong tree. He shouldn't have to apologize for anything. As a contributor to LORRAINESCAPE, he should just STOP. But there are many "shoulds" out on the table in tabletop RPG universe way ahead of him!

Planescape is good too.

Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;635575World of Darkness "Done right" bores me to fucking tears, but I would play a DSotBH campaign (or "Underworld as co-directed by David Cronenberg and John Woo with production design by H.R. Geiger") in a heartbeart. I mean, you play international vampire super-agents fighting a secret invasion by a sentient alien disease. This idea is many things, but dull is not one of them.

In general I find running traditional World of Darkness games as some variant of Underworld tends to work a charm.

Quote from: jibbajibba;636961Best casting of Haste ever. Wizard cast it on a swam of giant wasps, big 5HD things, the size of dogs, with poison stings. The wasps hasted aged and all died as the lifespan of a Wasp is measured in weeks.

As DM I had to roll with it as it was a great move.

You won the thread.

Pretty good, but was this in-character knowledge regarding specifically giant wasps?
Or was this a guy using real-life out of character knowledge about regular wasps and then demanding that the fantasy world work that way?

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Quote from: The Butcher;636179Objectivist elves? I could totally see this shit working on a game world.

But then I always run elves as assholes. Assholes on the side of Light and Good, more often than not, but assholes nevertheless.

Yeah. I always thought of elves as jerks, so those things listed kind of fit them well for my settings.

I remember enjoying the book of elves when it came out.

NPC elves must always be some variety of dick.

Quote from: Baron;635672Who would I like to apologize? Robin Laws. For what he did to the Glorantha gaming that I loved so much. Heroquest/Hero Wars. Bah.

What, he created this new game to replace RQ and totally without Greg Stafford's approval? And then he stopped all future development for RQ? And then he came to your house and burned all your RQ books? I hope that bastard burns in hell like the pages of those RQ manuals.

Quote from: Planet Algol;637962NPC elves must always be some variety of dick.

Yup. Mine tend to be.

I dislike Elves as a player race/class mainly because I think to played "right", they should be completely alien, creatures from out of dreams who view life in a completely different manner from humans, a challenge very few players are up to.

As NPcs, I play elves like minor nature dieties, anamistic spirits that view shorter-lived races in much the same manner as humans would view mayflies.

Quote from: TristramEvans;638544I dislike Elves as a player race/class mainly because I think to played "right", they should be completely alien, creatures from out of dreams who view life in a completely different manner from humans, a challenge very few players are up to.

As NPcs, I play elves like minor nature dieties, anamistic spirits that view shorter-lived races in much the same manner as humans would view mayflies.

I agree with all this and I think this is the way the book is written and why it's hated and is part of the general elf hate.

Elves are kind of like that in my campaign world, actually: hardcore isolationists who take that to such extremes that they disown half-elf children and refuse to have anything to do with them. Half-elves end up caught between this deep desire to penetrate the mysteries of their own heritage and their anger at being rejected by one of their parents.

Elves in my campaign are effectively immortal - unless they're killed.  Humans want to go to war every generation (or more often, as often as not).  They don't really understand why elves won't 'take a stand' against the 'evils of the world'.  But even if a particular warlord is terrible, a 30 year rule is pretty insignificant from their point of view.  It'd be no more harrowing than if you temporarily had to report to a boss you hate for a month.

Once people wrap their head around that major difference in worldview, add in that elves don't believe in an afterlife, you have a powerful motive to survive, while humans happily throw their lives away for a 'cause' that seems ephemeral to the elves.  

Most of the stereotypes (positive and negative) flow from that.  As far as population, it tends to be low (compared to humans), but very high level.  A 'village' of 0th or 1st level commoners doesn't exist.  Most of the residents will be mid-level with a rare few very low or very high.

As for half-elves, they only count if their mother is elven.  If the mother is human, the child is human.  It's sort of the opposite for half-orcs: if the mother is a human, it's a half-Orc.  If the mother is an Orc, so is the child.

Quote from: RPGPundit;637898Pretty good, but was this in-character knowledge regarding specifically giant wasps?
Or was this a guy using real-life out of character knowledge about regular wasps and then demanding that the fantasy world work that way?

RPGPundit

In character knowledge about normal wasps, he had some sort of rural upbringing. He had bugger all idea about giant wasps and it could well have bitten him on the arse (or stung him) as the wasps may have lived hundreds of years and butchered he party as a result.

As the DM I just thought that was quite clever and rolled with it. I had only invented the idea of giant wasps about 10 minutes earlier and so had no firm plans around their lifecycle.

Of course they had to run away anyway because the obvious extrapolation was that somewhere there was a fucking huge nest of giant wasps....