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Author Topic: Coming soon to your favourite game store: Soynan the Barbarian  (Read 3519 times)

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Re: Coming soon to your favourite game store: Soynan the Barbarian
« Reply #135 on: November 15, 2020, 05:28:16 am »
The last version I had downloaded was Version 5, which still had The Mysterious East as a chapter title and had a Martial Arts talent tree.  Obviously, it was Stormfront recruiting material and had to be expurgated.

At least I have a version I can read without laughing.
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Re: Coming soon to your favourite game store: Soynan the Barbarian
« Reply #136 on: November 15, 2020, 05:34:29 am »
Isn't that the point of the complaint? I agree with your point here - but that problem is that in practice, almost no one refers to Conan the Barbarian as a "martial arts film" or Errol Flynn as a "martial arts star". For example, in my copy of GURPS Martial Arts (3rd ed), the cover has a yin-yang symbol and there are seven weapon tables: Chinese, Japanese, Ninja, Philippine, Indonesian, Indian, and Korean. So clearly it's not about all combat forms but rather focused on Asian forms.

Unfortunately that's true, and it came about after the term "Martial Arts" became associated with eastern unarmed styles with the influx of Martial Arts films in the 70s, which continued in the 80s and somewhat the 90s.

However, that was at the turn of the last century. We're living in 2020 now. HEMA is all over YouTube. People know about Capoeira, Krav Maga and other non-Eastern martial arts as well. People should know "Martial Arts" extends beyond just eastern styles of unarmed combat by now, and even if they don't they're still in error and need to be corrected, not change the meaning of the term "Martial Arts" cuz some people are idiots.

This was a pet peeve of mine even in the 90s (the decade I started playing), and I would frequently correct people when it came up during play or character creation, and point out that swinging a sword itself was a martial art.
I think we're just agreeing here. I had exactly the same pet peeve.

As regards Conan - it sounds to me like Conan 2d20 originally had a talent tree called "martial arts" that implied something more like Asian styles, rather than just general combat skills. However, I only have the quickstart rules which doesn't have that tree - so I'm not sure what the deal is.

All of the talents except one are based on the first step in the tree, Open Hand, and they are Unarmed.
The one weapon talent in the tree is Symphony of Blades, and it lets you use the abilities of open hand techniques with weapons.  So instead of blocking an arrow with your hand, you can do it with a sword, staff, whatever.  Each new weapon you add you retake the Symphony of Blades talent.  So yeah, it’s mostly focused on Open Hand techniques and the types of moves you see in Asian Martial Arts.
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Re: Coming soon to your favourite game store: Soynan the Barbarian
« Reply #137 on: November 15, 2020, 05:38:30 am »
Tons of KS backers are demanding refunds, including me.  I spent over $1,000 on this game at the Mount Yishma highest pledge level. 

I told them "At this point I think I'd like a refund of the $1,000 I spent on backing this bait and switch scam of a Kickstarter and sham of a game.  I paid for the tagline of being authentic to REH and the original Conan stories and you have now breached my trust.  I do not want SJW virtue-signaling and soy boy politics in my Conan game.  Leave your politics out of gaming products."

There are tons of people pissed off in the comments for the backers and many are demanding refunds.

Good luck to you - but I have to say - a grand is sort of a ridiculous amount of cash to put into a single game, especially before you've seen it. I think I probably gave a bit more than that to Games Workshop over the years, but that was over the course of more than a decade with multiple armies and three different game systems.

That level of Kickstarter support just reminds me of the Star Citizen backers who bought a theoretical digital battle carrier or whatnot. (To be fair - I did buy Star Citizen nearly a decade ago now - but just the base game. I'm an optimist who liked Wing Commander and Freelancer - I'm not crazy.)

As a birthday present I got an account with a Constellation Ship.  I’ll have to go back and see if I can fly it yet. :D
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Re: Coming soon to your favourite game store: Soynan the Barbarian
« Reply #138 on: November 16, 2020, 07:32:16 am »
The last version I had downloaded was Version 5, which still had The Mysterious East as a chapter title and had a Martial Arts talent tree.  Obviously, it was Stormfront recruiting material and had to be expurgated.

At least I have a version I can read without laughing.
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Re: Coming soon to your favourite game store: Soynan the Barbarian
« Reply #139 on: November 19, 2020, 07:42:40 pm »
Does anyone have a complete list of all the changes they made?
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