http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?5204-Harassment-Policies-New-Allegations-Show-More-Work-To-Be-Done

This is character assassination period. This is NOT journalism. It is a fevered machinations of a clearly emotionally-compromised human being desperate for the false-love of his fevered SJW sycophants.

I officially hereby take back everything nice I've ever said about Christopher Helton. He is using ENWorld as a platform to carry out his arrogant witch-hunt to satisfy his obviously personal shame for who-knows-what.

Don't let Chris Helton fool you. He is not a journalist. He is a demented self-appointed inquisitor.

I have cancelled my support of ENWorld, my EONS subscription and will be seriously considering my support of WOIN.

Regards,

Don't let Chris Helton fool you. He is not a journalist. He is a demented self-appointed inquisitor.


Well that's certainly true.

If he's telling the truth, he does seem to have multiple sources in this case; it seems better supported than the last witch hunt.

I do think conventions need to stop inappropriate behaviour should it occur. I'm not sure the codes make any positive difference though. I've left my son (10) to play games at one convention table while I went to another, most recently in a nearby room - I think before doing that I would go far more by whether I got bad vibes from anyone at the table (never have), than by whether the convention had an anti-molestation code. Especially as worrying about children seems to be an exclusively right-wing preoccupation, so a code created with feminist dialectic in mind may be entirely orthogonal to child safety.

Eh, accusations by multiple women who don't know each other. When it goes from he said, she said to they said, he said, it becomes more credible.

I have attended many conventions over the many years (since 1983). This "oh noes harrassment!" is the SJW's version of the Satanic Panic.  

BTW, I am impressed that several ENworld posters are pushing back on the "allegations", "allegedly" and "accusations".

So as of today, Sean Patrick Fannon's career is demolished, perhaps destroyed if he loses his job over this screed. He should sue ENworld for defamation and libel. ENworld and others pushing this "court of public opinion" nonsense will only learn there lesson when they suffer financially.
 
As for convention safety, cons are as safe as your grocery store. No more, no less.

Also, very soon we're gonna be able to have All Naughty Con with dozens of guests of honor who have been banned from everywhere else!!

Quote from: JeremyR;1036870Eh, accusations by multiple women who don't know each other. When it goes from he said, she said to they said, he said, it becomes more credible.

Absolutely! I don't disagree. But should allegations, even credible ones, instantly turn into punishments? Chris just assassinated SPF's career. He leveraged the ultimate consequences with only a short statement from SPF before he published.

It is plainly obvious that Chris Helton is virtue signaling the emotional crowd for clicks. Sensationalist tabloid fodder meant to incite, not solve any problems. If we stand by and let CH get away with this, he WILL become the ultimate inquisitor with the power to defame anyone.

The accused doxxed his accusers over at TBP. In Tabletop Roleplaying Open.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1036883The accused doxxed his accusers over at TBP. In Tabletop Roleplaying Open.

What sensationalist bullshit. That same post is on the ENWorld forum as a reply to the article. He posted his conversations with Morrus and Helton about this issue. That is not Doxxing bro.

The purple plague post is a shitshow as usual. "I believe you" stated to a dude who believes SPF threatened his life. Watch as the snowflakes dazzle you with their online words while doing NOTHING to actually solve the problem!

Sean has a public reply on his Facebook page. It's set to public view as opposed to Friends Only, so anyone can view it.

Quote from: trechriron;1036895What sensationalist bullshit. That same post is on the ENWorld forum as a reply to the article. He posted his conversations with Morrus and Helton about this issue. That is not Doxxing bro.

  He did identify one of Helton's sources, but not the anonymous accusers themselves. I don't know if that makes a difference.

  But I don't know if any of this makes a difference, what with posts like this one on EN World, that takes the "heckler's veto" to a reductio ad absurdam:

QuoteThat's an interesting corner case. If someone accused you of harrassment, under Option 1) would you have to assume you are yourself guilty?

I would say yes; because harassment is not defined by any particular action but by whether the person aggrieved feels they were harassed.

So to answer "By that logic, I could accuse you, someone I've never previously met or otherwise interacted with, of inappropriate or harassing behavior and you would have to believe me." my answer would be: yes, I believe you, and I apologize unreservedly for my behaviour.

 

Quote from: trechriron;1036895The purple plague post is a shitshow as usual. "I believe you" stated to a dude who believes SPF threatened his life. Watch as the snowflakes dazzle you with their online words while doing NOTHING to actually solve the problem!

  Well, some posts on that thread do seem to take the stand that there is no room for repentance, mercy or forgiveness--the stain can never be washed away.

  Time for all we Oppressors to vacate the hobby; it's the only way it will ever be safe for those who deserve it more.

Quote from: JeremyR;1036870Eh, accusations by multiple women who don't know each other. When it goes from he said, she said to they said, he said, it becomes more credible.

No.  It does not.  It just means that multiple people are making accusations.  Until undeniable proof is shown, than that's all they are: Accusations.

If SPF is such a monster, why didn't one (or more) of his "victims" not write the article herself?

Why does Helton have to white knight for them in the age of equality and MeToo?

Quote from: trechriron;1036877But should allegations, even credible ones, instantly turn into punishments? Chris just assassinated SPF's career. He leveraged the ultimate consequences with only a short statement from SPF before he published.

Helton just made himself and ENworld the prime target of a lawsuit. Now we'll see if SPF has the stones to throw down on them, or whether he just flees in shame.

Quote from: trechriron;1036877It is plainly obvious that Chris Helton is virtue signaling the emotional crowd for clicks. Sensationalist tabloid fodder meant to incite, not solve any problems. If we stand by and let CH get away with this, he WILL become the ultimate inquisitor with the power to defame anyone.

What do you recommend we do?

I don't visit ENworld anymore (not related to this, but ENW's usefulness dropped off for me some time ago).

I never heard of Helton before. I only know SPF from Savage Rifts.

Quote from: Mistwell;1036908Sean has a public reply on his Facebook page.

Link? Or just cut and paste it!

Quote from: trechriron;1036895He posted his conversations with Morrus and Helton about this issue.

Linkage! Or cut and paste.

Quote from: trechriron;1036895Watch as the snowflakes dazzle you with their online words while doing NOTHING to actually solve the problem!

That's working from the assumption that a problem exists to be solved. That's buying into their bullshit.

If SPF did everything Helton claims, SPF still broke no laws, but he would be a social misfit (like many men). Again, that's not a crime.

Here is the post Mistwell speaks of that is also most of the post response on ENWorld. It was also posted on TBP, but those asshats edited out stuff because #StupidFuckingRules

https://www.facebook.com/notes/sean-patrick-fannon/in-response-to-the-en-world-piece-against-me/10156096759290289/

Ok, I read his simpering nonsense on Farcebook.

It's clearly a case of SJWs devouring one of their own. Let him burn.

Somebody get the marshmallows and beer.

Quote from: trechriron;1036970Here is the post Mistwell speaks of that is also most of the post response on ENWorld. It was also posted on TBP, but those asshats edited out stuff because #StupidFuckingRules

https://www.facebook.com/notes/sean-patrick-fannon/in-response-to-the-en-world-piece-against-me/10156096759290289/

I like that TBP has found a way to move beyond "listen and believe" to just "don't even bother trying to defend".  According to the mods "innocent until proven guilty" has been deemed a sexist derailing tactic.

Quote from: rgalex;1037045I like that TBP has found a way to move beyond "listen and believe" to just "don't even bother trying to defend".  According to the mods "innocent until proven guilty" has been deemed a sexist derailing tactic.

Yep. This has seriously become a radical inquisition.