Quote from: flyingmice;370569There is some overlap at the edges - from the book:

"Each mage has an affinity for a power source which is chosen upon character creation. This affinity determines, wherever possible, the expression of magic.


The Affinities are:

Affinity    -   Example Effect
Earth  -  Rocks, stone, pebbles, dirt, magma, mud, sand, or dust.
Air    -  Wind, breeze, rain, lightning, gas, storm, air, or dust,
Fire   -  Fire, explosion, magma, heat, warmth, steam, or ash
Water   -  Water, mud, rain, steam, foam, cold, ice, sleet, or hail
Light  -  Pure shades of light and darkness

For instance, a mage with an Earth Affinity might produce a hail of pebbles for an Energy spell, while a Water mage might produce a gout of live steam. The type of effect produced is up to the character. For example, a mage with an Affinity to Fire might produce either ash or magma as an effect of a Matter spell. Even spells without an obvious manifestation should reflect the caster's affinity. A heal spell from an Earth mage might manifest itself with the smell of rich earth and growing things, while the same spell from a Fire mage would feel like a hot, invigorating draught coursing through the recipient's veins."

So, fire and water mages can both produce steam. Water and Air mages can both produce rain.

-clash

Quote from: CRKrueger;370574Build your own spells, elemental effects, capability to learn different spell types, try Shadowrun 2nd edition.  It usually gets overlooked as a magical system due to it being cyberpunkish, but the drain mechanic is one of my favorites.

Quote from: LordVreeg;370571RIGHT.
That's why I like having skill systems,
Last night one of our mentalists/air mages decided he'd had enough of using extra spirit to make up for his lack of ability in chaos, so he bought a 'kit' for chaos.  In game, he spoke to a friend in the alternative school and bought some tomes and learning materials to learn how to tap into the Well of Chaos.
"Skill Kits and the General costing of kits


Kits are the generalized names for study aids a character can buy to learn a new skill or to become better in a skill they already have. Though we speak of them in a somewhat antiseptic terminology, a kit can contain practice items, small samples, and models as well as written material. Similarly, kits may require practice and field work, not merely reading.  In terms of the mechanical side, Skill Kits are the generic name for the rules mechanism for acquiring new skills and working on current ones.


Kits come in two types, kits that teaching kits or a study kit.
Teaching Kits are needed to give a character the skill. A character still has to have the parent skill if the skill trying to be learned is a dropdown."

Quote from: HinterWelt;370615Sigmund,
I know you said you looked over Roma but specifically, did you look at Shamans and Druids? The Free Form magic system really sounds close to what you are describing if I am understanding you correctly.

Quote from: Sigmund;370617I did, but I'm looking for a little bit more structure. I really looked into True Sorcery for awhile before deciding against it. I think I'm asking too much, wanting free-form, with some structure, yet simple... gah, I think I'm just going to have to suck it up and mold IG's Crafting to fit, then I can use GD3 (or AO) to run the setting. Oh, and another caveat is that I have the True20 version of Roma, is your Iridium version similar with the druidic freeform system?

Quote from: LordVreeg;370730you are going to have to suck it up.

Hopefully you won't have to go as far as I did.  But the more you play, and the more you want your magic to match the setting, the more you have to change the system.

Quote from: Sigmund;370617I did, but I'm looking for a little bit more structure. I really looked into True Sorcery for awhile before deciding against it. I think I'm asking too much, wanting free-form, with some structure, yet simple... gah, I think I'm just going to have to suck it up and mold IG's Crafting to fit, then I can use GD3 (or AO) to run the setting. Oh, and another caveat is that I have the True20 version of Roma, is your Iridium version similar with the druidic freeform system?

Quote from: HinterWelt;370772Well, it differs somewhat. Upon review of your criteria, maybe the alchemist in Roma is what you need.

Do you want the Roma Iridium version? Hell, I just send you a coupon. Is my store O.k? Let me know if you need it for OBS or YGN.

Quote from: Sigmund;370789Ok, so I was ordering the pair of  "Big Book 'O..." for SC2 anyway, so threw Jalan in there with that from Lulu, cuz the pdf you let me check out looks awesome Clash. Also thanks Brett for the Atomik Magick pdf, cuz that looks like it's going to come in really handy so I'm grabbing a print of that too, plus it'll go with the Atomik Grimoire print copy I already got from ya. I'm freakin excited now, gonna have loads of reading material, future games to plan, and a great reason to go back to work for the rest of the week All this for less than $100 though is freakin sweet, thanks again ya'all.

If anyone else has any thoughts or ideas relating to my magic system project please don't hesitate to chime in.