Quote from: Christopher Brady;864279Automatically?  No.  But often, the intent is there to improve what's there.  To make the item better.  And yet, gamers assume that new is automatically worse.

This saddens me.  Simply because no one ever gives something new a chance.  Maybe it's not to your taste, or maybe not all of it, but something in it is interesting.  But very few gamers (and this IS a blanket statement, I apologize, but it's just my perception) ever do more than dismiss the new, if the old is an option.

No one ever gives something new a chance? Isn't the default way to boost sales in the RPG market to put out a new edition because new core books are always the biggest sellers? Seems plenty of people are ready to hitch a ride on-board new editions.

To be more specific, RQ 6 has been very successful, successful enough that Chaosium is taking it in-house and making it the basis for the new BRP essential rule set.

I'm running my next game using RQ 6. That doesn't mean I don't like having RQ 2, which contains a lot of valuable things that I can harvest for my RQ 6 game.

Quote from: Simlasa;864284Also, it's very common among BRP fans to pick and choose elements from across the various versions/incarnations... there's been very little of anything resembling the 'editions wars' that some other games have suffered. The closest might be the rumbles over the new edition of CoC, but even that is minor in comparison.

This. I hang out BRP Central, and while people there all tend to lean towards one variant or another, it's a pretty chill scene with a lot of love for both old and new products.

My understanding of the situation, which has yet to be fully confirmed as people are still working out details etc, is that the new Chaosium will be taking a multiple headed approach to RuneQuest/BRP:

1) A "Classic" Reprint of RuneQuest 2 will indeed come out, with a few tweaks. This will probably be in line with the other Classic Glorantha releases and be part of the 50th Anniversary celebrations.

2) A new edition of RuneQuest, just called "RuneQuest" but based on the RuneQuest 6 rules, will be released next year and become the modern standard RQ game. It will be based in Glorantha and hopefully will feature the same layout and physical design we saw in Guide to Glorantha and HeroQuest: Glorantha. This has yet to be confirmed but it would make sense.

3) BRP Essentials will be released as a 32 Page book, with alternative games and settings based on it. Indeed, it's been suggested that these rules may make their way into alternative releases so that they can be used standalone. Mythic Iceland is already mooted, while The Design Mechanism (who designed RQ6) is also suggesting a line of future titles that would also feature these rules.

4) RQ6 as in it's current form and the BRP Gold book will be discontinued, but will still be readily available on PDF and possibly POD.

For me, it's an exciting time to be a RuneQuest fan.

I'll probably blow some money on this, and talking of Chaosium reprints...



That would be awesome too

Stormbringer is a cat in hell's chance of returning for Chaosium, bluntly....

Quote from: TrippyHippy;864345Stormbringer is a cat in hell's chance of returning for Chaosium, bluntly....

I know that MM is disgruntled with the way Chaosium dealt with him and his IP... but a man can dream, right?

Quote from: TrippyHippy;8643393) BRP Essentials will be released as a 32 Page book, with alternative games and settings based on it. Indeed, it's been suggested that these rules may make their way into alternative releases so that they can be used standalone. Mythic Iceland is already mooted, while The Design Mechanism (who designed RQ6) is also suggesting a line of future titles that would also feature these rules.

Minor correction here:  "RuneQuest Gateway" will not be based on BRP Essentials, but will instead be a pared-down version of RQ6.  (I can't find the post to reference it, but that info came straight from Loz.)

It'll be interesting to see how they manage to get RQ6 into that page count...

That's nice. I remember the old hardbound edition sold in book stores did not have the errata incorporated in any form. (It's become mighty rare, too, so a more durable hard cover version this time would be another reason to buy even if old paper-bound volumes are already at hand and getting wear and tear.)

Quote from: artikid;864346I know that MM is disgruntled with the way Chaosium dealt with him and his IP... but a man can dream, right?

Do have a check out of the Luther Arkwright game for RQ6. It's not Swords and Sorcery (more alternative worlds/steampunk) but it's very Moorecockian. The Graphic Novel also has an intro penned by Moorecock.

I have asked to see it being expanded into a standalone book which, who knows, may end up happening with the shift around.

In some ways I actually prefer Luther Arkwright to Stormbringer/Elric on the grounds that there are plenty of other dark S&S RPGs out there now - indeed, you could use a D&D Warlock and get pretty much the same deal these days. In the case of Chaosium, they already have RQ as their branded S&S setting.

What Luther Arkwright does is offer a new genre to the mix, that is clearly different to RQ and CoC, but has just as much depth and resonance as either. It's an adult sci-fi setting with a bit of twisted humour. Like Doctor Who on an absinthe bender.

Quote from: nDervish;864348Minor correction here:  "RuneQuest Gateway" will not be based on BRP Essentials, but will instead be a pared-down version of RQ6.  (I can't find the post to reference it, but that info came straight from Loz.)

It'll be interesting to see how they manage to get RQ6 into that page count...

I did notice the moniker 'RuneQuest Gateway" being used. My understanding was that 'BRP Essentials' was also going to be a pared down version of RQ6 - maybe the just changed the name to avoid confusion.

I'm confused.

Quote from: TrippyHippy;864432What Luther Arkwright does is offer a new genre to the mix, that is clearly different to RQ and CoC, but has just as much depth and resonance as either. It's an adult sci-fi setting with a bit of twisted humour. Like Doctor Who on an absinthe bender.

It's a great setting... though I see it as more Jerry Cornelius (as an aspect of the Eternal Champion) than Dr. Who.
I can't see myself using it as is but it's got most everything I need to run an Airtight Garage-ish campaign.

Quote from: Simlasa;864436It's a great setting... though I see it as more Jerry Cornelius (as an aspect of the Eternal Champion) than Dr. Who.
I can't see myself using it as is but it's got most everything I need to run an Airtight Garage-ish campaign.

My Arkwright one-shot for GenCon has The Doctor, Arkwright, Cornelius, John Steed and Emma Peel as pre-gens for the players.

Huge amounts of fun.

Quote from: Simlasa;864148So many other things... Chaosium monographs, BRP stuff... all the BRP stuff Alephtar did... have been yanked, sold-out, nullified.

It is not dead what can eternal lie. And in Strange Aeons...

At least some of that stuff will see the light of the day again. And waiting for Strange Aeons to come will not be necessary

Quote from: Baulderstone;864256The hardcover is very well made. My copy is clearly used and has a little battle damage to the cover, but the stitched binding is still holding strong. It's one of the few collector's item books that I really have no concerns about using in play. It will probably outlast me.



It's understandable. There is a lot in flux at the moment. I'm still hoping Chaosium changes course and lets it continue to be produced. Going with a Glorantha only core book is not what I want at all, even though I like Glorantha.





I like both the RQ 2 and 5 covers for different reasons.

I preferred Elmore when I was a kid, but his stuff doesn't do much for me anymore. It might partly be that I dabble in art myself now. A lot of Elmore's stuff is just a painting of a model standing around in fantasy dress with a nice landscape in the background. It's well-done, but it doesn't take my imagination anywhere. Otus has a strange psychedelic vibe.

Basically, if I were to wander into a dungeon that came to life from an Elmore illustration, I don't think I would see anything that would surprise me. Walking into an Otus dungeon would be a strange and terrifying place.

yah walking in to an Otus dungeon would be like walking in to a nightmare though personally i prefer Elmore's art though that may simply be that i have a weakness to that art style

edit also i adore kōsuke fujishima's work

Quote from: Loz;864441My Arkwright one-shot for GenCon has The Doctor, Arkwright, Cornelius, John Steed and Emma Peel as pre-gens for the players.

Huge amounts of fun.

Oh! Yeah, later episodes of The Avengers definitely have that flavor... I can see Steed and Peel as agents of Zero Zero.

Quote from: RosenMcStern;864443At least some of that stuff will see the light of the day again.

Might Dragon Lines be among them?

Quote from: nDervish;864348Minor correction here:  "RuneQuest Gateway" will not be based on BRP Essentials, but will instead be a pared-down version of RQ6.  (I can't find the post to reference it, but that info came straight from Loz.)

It'll be interesting to see how they manage to get RQ6 into that page count...

I thought BRP Essentials was also to be based on RQ6. Is RuneQuest Gateway just the new name for BRP Essentials?