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ChangedStars: Poe's Law in RPG Form

Started by Torque2100, April 28, 2021, 12:16:04 PM

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GeekyBugle

Quote from: HappyDaze on May 02, 2021, 09:39:57 AM
Quote from: jhkim on May 01, 2021, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 04:12:55 AM
Quote from: jhkim on May 01, 2021, 03:05:42 AM
OK, new to the thread here - but calling out Asperger's here is bullshit. Plenty of posters here are assholes without Asperger's and plenty of people with Asperger's are super nice.

One, thank you for finding a cure guy, will make sure to inform my doctors.
Two, I've never used it as an excuse for my assholery, YOU're inferring that without reading shit. Which is kind of assholish IMHO.

GeekyBugle, sorry my post was unclear. My beef was with HappyDaze for citing you over Asperger's, which I felt was uncalled for. I have no problem with what you've said over it.
Is that what I did? Someone else mentioned Asperger's and I mentioned that there was at least one here with that condition. GB then shouted out that it was him and I simply acknowledged it along with the fact that, yes, I do consider GB to be an asshole. If you have a problem with that, you can go fuck yourself, because GB considers himself to be an asshole too, and you should respect how he self-identifies:P

That is correct, that's the exact order in which things transpired and that's how it transpired too.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

DocJones

Quote from: trechriron on May 02, 2021, 02:58:52 AM
Quote from: DocJones on May 01, 2021, 07:15:31 PM
"The indomitable Human Empire vaulted itself majestically dick-first into space."

First, if that hilarious description of the Human Empire didn't sell you, I don't what could.
I would have used "thrust" instead of "vaulted" and maybe "headstrong" instead on "indomitable"

"The headstrong Human Empire thrust itself majestically dick-first into space."

trechriron

Hmmm - Tempest in a Teapot?

There are MANY games that support male cis hetero fantasies. MANY also support western societal tropes. It's common. I also support these games and tropes. I'm a big fan of people playing what they like - the way they like. In fact, I support creators making settings with uncomfortable portrayals of the ugliness in humanity's history. I feel that sugar-coating them is an insult to the people who suffered in those times.

This is simply some people making a game that fits their fantasy - what they want to see in a sci-fi setting. A world not dominated by a patriarchal mindset. The setup just changes the playing field. There is so much detail going into this game! I feel like it's a perfect thought experiment that falls squarely in the sci-fi realm. This is exactly what I want sci-fi to do for me. Make me wonder and think.

I support someone making the Gor RPG (I backed it) and so I support someone making the matriarchal equality society in space RPG (I backed it).

With each update it looks even cooler.
Trentin C Bergeron (trechriron)
Bard, Creative & RPG Enthusiast

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D.O.N.G. Black-Belt (Thanks tenbones!)

Ratman_tf

Quote from: trechriron on May 02, 2021, 09:19:57 PM
Hmmm - Tempest in a Teapot?

Eh. I don't remember anyone in the thread going bugshit over this kickstarter. Mostly just fun to mock it. The blurb reads like a troll attempt, so I took it in that spirit.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

This Guy

Quote from: trechriron on May 02, 2021, 09:19:57 PM
Hmmm - Tempest in a Teapot?

There are MANY games that support male cis hetero fantasies. MANY also support western societal tropes. It's common. I also support these games and tropes. I'm a big fan of people playing what they like - the way they like. In fact, I support creators making settings with uncomfortable portrayals of the ugliness in humanity's history. I feel that sugar-coating them is an insult to the people who suffered in those times.

This is simply some people making a game that fits their fantasy - what they want to see in a sci-fi setting. A world not dominated by a patriarchal mindset. The setup just changes the playing field. There is so much detail going into this game! I feel like it's a perfect thought experiment that falls squarely in the sci-fi realm. This is exactly what I want sci-fi to do for me. Make me wonder and think.

I support someone making the Gor RPG (I backed it) and so I support someone making the matriarchal equality society in space RPG (I backed it).

With each update it looks even cooler.

I remain annoyed the ad is like "oh funded in 5 hours!" when the initial goal was super small-potatoes in KS-terms. Good on them for chasin their weird weird dream otherwise. Whats the RPG market if you can't churn out your passion game and have nearly nobody buy it you know
I don\'t want to play with you.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: trechriron on May 02, 2021, 09:19:57 PM
Hmmm - Tempest in a Teapot?

There are MANY games that support male cis hetero fantasies. MANY also support western societal tropes. It's common. I also support these games and tropes. I'm a big fan of people playing what they like - the way they like. In fact, I support creators making settings with uncomfortable portrayals of the ugliness in humanity's history. I feel that sugar-coating them is an insult to the people who suffered in those times.

This is simply some people making a game that fits their fantasy - what they want to see in a sci-fi setting. A world not dominated by a patriarchal mindset. The setup just changes the playing field. There is so much detail going into this game! I feel like it's a perfect thought experiment that falls squarely in the sci-fi realm. This is exactly what I want sci-fi to do for me. Make me wonder and think.

I support someone making the Gor RPG (I backed it) and so I support someone making the matriarchal equality society in space RPG (I backed it).

With each update it looks even cooler.

SO? Who here is trying to rally the weirdos to go and get "offended" and Reeeeeeeee until the game is deplatformed and the creators unpersoned?

They can create whatever and people have the God given right to point and laugh, to criticize.

Gor... I maybe wrong but NO ONE is saying that setting is an utopia.

Matriarchal Equality Society... Where some aliens came and did something to all the heterosexuals especially men...

Also, no, we don't live in a patriarchy, we live in a meritocracy.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Spinachcat

Kickstarter is owned by wokesters, they push stuff made by fellow wokesters and have gathered an audience of wokesters with money in their pockets (and now flush with government CoronaCash!).

And slowly but surely, the main hobby will be further poisoned. What was once extreme and niche, with enough promotion and success, becomes mainstream.

But yes, it's Woke RaHoWa. Next up, a chart for rolling anal size post-backdoor action being declared as stunning and brave.

This Guy

There's a lot going on in that post for you to be angry about Spinach, are you okay

I don\'t want to play with you.

Zelen

Quote from: Spinachcat on May 03, 2021, 05:02:55 PM
Kickstarter is owned by wokesters, they push stuff made by fellow wokesters and have gathered an audience of wokesters with money in their pockets (and now flush with government CoronaCash!).

And slowly but surely, the main hobby will be further poisoned. What was once extreme and niche, with enough promotion and success, becomes mainstream.

But yes, it's Woke RaHoWa. Next up, a chart for rolling anal size post-backdoor action being declared as stunning and brave.

Products like this won't have any broader impact. The problem of poisoning the hobby comes through WotC, Paizo, White Wolf, etc.

From the perspective of preventing Wokeness of ruining the hobby, ironically the best thing might be to produce your own hyper-Woke product and get them to pay you. Once you get their money you can use it on paying talented people, instead of based on mental illness status.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Zelen on May 03, 2021, 08:53:05 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on May 03, 2021, 05:02:55 PM
Kickstarter is owned by wokesters, they push stuff made by fellow wokesters and have gathered an audience of wokesters with money in their pockets (and now flush with government CoronaCash!).

And slowly but surely, the main hobby will be further poisoned. What was once extreme and niche, with enough promotion and success, becomes mainstream.

But yes, it's Woke RaHoWa. Next up, a chart for rolling anal size post-backdoor action being declared as stunning and brave.

Products like this won't have any broader impact. The problem of poisoning the hobby comes through WotC, Paizo, White Wolf, etc.

From the perspective of preventing Wokeness of ruining the hobby, ironically the best thing might be to produce your own hyper-Woke product and get them to pay you. Once you get their money you can use it on paying talented people, instead of based on mental illness status.

And you'd be confronted with the classic double agent dillema:

How can you trust he's really, really working for you?

I wouldn't give my money to any woke developer even if they started saying they were only trying to get the woke money to produce better non-woke products.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Zelen

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 03, 2021, 09:30:33 PM
And you'd be confronted with the classic double agent dillema:

How can you trust he's really, really working for you?

I wouldn't give my money to any woke developer even if they started saying they were only trying to get the woke money to produce better non-woke products.

RPGs are such a small industry that it doesn't need to be any more complex than creating a good product that sucks up the air in the room, and then use that to pay good people who aren't injecting their politics into everything. Keep the good people afloat is a victory in itself.

You're right in that *your* brand would be poisoned, which is why you'd want to create a separate legal entity for it, and don't connect it to anything else you do.

trechriron

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 03, 2021, 11:45:06 AM

Also, no, we don't live in a patriarchy, we live in a meritocracy.

Cool delusion bro.
Trentin C Bergeron (trechriron)
Bard, Creative & RPG Enthusiast

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D.O.N.G. Black-Belt (Thanks tenbones!)

Shrieking Banshee

Quote from: trechriron on May 03, 2021, 11:36:42 PM
Cool delusion bro.
And would you have a problem with this if it was a matriarchy?

GeekyBugle

Quote from: trechriron on May 03, 2021, 11:36:42 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 03, 2021, 11:45:06 AM

Also, no, we don't live in a patriarchy, we live in a meritocracy.

Cool delusion bro.

So you have any evidence that we do?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

matt swain

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 04, 2021, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: trechriron on May 03, 2021, 11:36:42 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 03, 2021, 11:45:06 AM

Also, no, we don't live in a patriarchy, we live in a meritocracy.

Cool delusion bro.

So you have any evidence that we do?

Well, lets see. Sorts stars make millions, tens of millions while teachers get paid shit. Why? Because most wealthy sports stars are males who entertain mostly male audiences, while teachers just help educate our future generations and most guys don't give a fuck about that. Hell, a porn star with big tits makes more than a qualified teacher, again she entertains men. Sportstars entertain the male patriarchy and are rewarded accordingly. Many people who perform vital jobs (We would live without sports stars) get paid very little because the corporate patriarchy sucks up all the money but sports stars entertain the patriarchy and are paid lavishly for it.
RPG.net is a cancer on the left and a disgrace to reasonable progressives that should be denounced and shunned by anyone considering themselves a progressive.