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ChangedStars: Poe's Law in RPG Form

Started by Torque2100, April 28, 2021, 12:16:04 PM

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jhkim

#150
May 01, 2021, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 04:12:55 AM
Quote from: jhkim on May 01, 2021, 03:05:42 AM
OK, new to the thread here - but calling out Asperger's here is bullshit. Plenty of posters here are assholes without Asperger's and plenty of people with Asperger's are super nice.

One, thank you for finding a cure guy, will make sure to inform my doctors.
Two, I've never used it as an excuse for my assholery, YOU're inferring that without reading shit. Which is kind of assholish IMHO.

GeekyBugle, sorry my post was unclear. My beef was with HappyDaze for citing you over Asperger's, which I felt was uncalled for. I have no problem with what you've said over it.

GeekyBugle

#151
May 01, 2021, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: jhkim on May 01, 2021, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 04:12:55 AM
Quote from: jhkim on May 01, 2021, 03:05:42 AM
OK, new to the thread here - but calling out Asperger's here is bullshit. Plenty of posters here are assholes without Asperger's and plenty of people with Asperger's are super nice.

One, thank you for finding a cure guy, will make sure to inform my doctors.
Two, I've never used it as an excuse for my assholery, YOU're inferring that without reading shit. Which is kind of assholish IMHO.

GeekyBugle, sorry my post was unclear. My beef was with HappyDaze for citing you over Asperger's, which I felt was uncalled for. I have no problem with what you've said over it.

No problem, apology accepted.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

#152
May 01, 2021, 07:14:05 PM
Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on May 01, 2021, 02:52:37 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: Rhedyn on May 01, 2021, 02:19:10 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 02:12:15 PMSo your setting is a fascist dystopia.. Tell us more.
Arguing about word definitions is meaningless, but you still need to understand what people are saying.

Please describe in detail how you don't live in a fascist dystopia. What are your actual freedoms?

For starters I can be an asshole and not be condemned to die from starvation.

I can tell anyone to go eff themselves, I can buy stuff without fearing some puritan has docked my social credit.

Your setting is a Sharia Law, punishing people for transgressing against your morality. Not for hurting you or anyone else, not for doing ANY real damage, but for speaking words you find offensive.

Thanks, no thanks.

Also Words have a meaning, and in this case it applies perfectly, your setting is a fascist dystopia, but please tell us more or we won't be able to play The Price of Freedom with it.

Actually I don't think fascist is applicable because it is not feature a centralized ruling party, it is 100% dictatorial though. May be a dictatorial democracy, or a dictatorial technocracy.

Marriage of state+corporations. How else can you imposse such a system?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

DocJones

#153
May 01, 2021, 07:15:31 PM
"The indomitable Human Empire vaulted itself majestically dick-first into space."

Was this because vagina shaped rockets were deemed impractical?

Shrieking Banshee

#154
May 01, 2021, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 07:14:05 PMMarriage of state+corporations. How else can you imposse such a system?

Depends on the marriage. And from the assumption of the stated idea, the corps aren't married as much as receive extreme oversight (as does everything else). Its more an extreme surveillance state, as opposed to nationalization (or pseudo nationalization) of industry.

GeekyBugle

#155
May 01, 2021, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on May 01, 2021, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 07:14:05 PMMarriage of state+corporations. How else can you imposse such a system?

Depends on the marriage. And from the assumption of the stated idea, the corps aren't married as much as receive extreme oversight (as does everything else). Its more an extreme surveillance state, as opposed to nationalization (or pseudo nationalization) of industry.

Everything in the state, by the state, nothing outside the state or against the state.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

matt swain

#156
May 01, 2021, 10:24:06 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 07:14:05 PM
Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on May 01, 2021, 02:52:37 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: Rhedyn on May 01, 2021, 02:19:10 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 02:12:15 PMSo your setting is a fascist dystopia.. Tell us more.
Arguing about word definitions is meaningless, but you still need to understand what people are saying.

Please describe in detail how you don't live in a fascist dystopia. What are your actual freedoms?

For starters I can be an asshole and not be condemned to die from starvation.

I can tell anyone to go eff themselves, I can buy stuff without fearing some puritan has docked my social credit.

Your setting is a Sharia Law, punishing people for transgressing against your morality. Not for hurting you or anyone else, not for doing ANY real damage, but for speaking words you find offensive.

Thanks, no thanks.

Also Words have a meaning, and in this case it applies perfectly, your setting is a fascist dystopia, but please tell us more or we won't be able to play The Price of Freedom with it.

Actually I don't think fascist is applicable because it is not feature a centralized ruling party, it is 100% dictatorial though. May be a dictatorial democracy, or a dictatorial technocracy.

Marriage of state+corporations. How else can you imposse such a system?

Check this out.

https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/What-Is-Corporate-Fascism-Is-The-Government-Of-The-United-States-a-Fascist-Form-Of-Governance#:~:text=Benito%20Mussolini%20%28speaking%20of%20corporate%20fascism%29%20The%20concept,of%20individuals.%20This%20is%20known%20as%20an%20Oligarchy.

A lot of dark future rpgs like shadowrun have the idea of corporations controlling or simply replacing government.
RPG.net is a cancer on the left and a disgrace to reasonable progressives that should be denounced and shunned by anyone considering themselves a progressive.

trechriron

#157
May 02, 2021, 02:58:52 AM
Quote from: DocJones on May 01, 2021, 07:15:31 PM
"The indomitable Human Empire vaulted itself majestically dick-first into space."

Was this because vagina shaped rockets were deemed impractical?

First, if that hilarious description of the Human Empire didn't sell you, I don't what could.

Also, yes. Vagina shaped rockets have a harder time escaping gravity in an atmosphere. This caused a terrible oversight... CLITORIS shaped rockets!!
Trentin C Bergeron (trechriron)
Bard, Creative & RPG Enthusiast
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matt swain

#159
May 02, 2021, 03:53:24 AM
I think this game was written by some shitlord wanting to make the left look bad.
RPG.net is a cancer on the left and a disgrace to reasonable progressives that should be denounced and shunned by anyone considering themselves a progressive.

Ghostmaker

#161
May 02, 2021, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: matt swain on May 02, 2021, 03:53:24 AM
I think this game was written by some shitlord wanting to make the left look bad.
It's like that sequence from Clue.

COL. MUSTARD: "Are you trying to make me look stupid in front of the other guests?"
THE BUTLER: "You don't need any help from me, sir."
COL. MUSTARD: "That's right!"

HappyDaze

#162
May 02, 2021, 09:39:57 AM Last Edit: May 02, 2021, 09:43:53 AM by HappyDaze
Quote from: jhkim on May 01, 2021, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 01, 2021, 04:12:55 AM
Quote from: jhkim on May 01, 2021, 03:05:42 AM
OK, new to the thread here - but calling out Asperger's here is bullshit. Plenty of posters here are assholes without Asperger's and plenty of people with Asperger's are super nice.

One, thank you for finding a cure guy, will make sure to inform my doctors.
Two, I've never used it as an excuse for my assholery, YOU're inferring that without reading shit. Which is kind of assholish IMHO.

GeekyBugle, sorry my post was unclear. My beef was with HappyDaze for citing you over Asperger's, which I felt was uncalled for. I have no problem with what you've said over it.
Is that what I did? Someone else mentioned Asperger's and I mentioned that there was at least one here with that condition. GB then shouted out that it was him and I simply acknowledged it along with the fact that, yes, I do consider GB to be an asshole. If you have a problem with that, you can go fuck yourself, because GB considers himself to be an asshole too, and you should respect how he self-identifies.  :P

GeekyBugle

#163
May 02, 2021, 12:30:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on May 02, 2021, 03:30:26 AM
Quote from: matt swain on May 01, 2021, 10:24:06 PM

Check this out.

https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/What-Is-Corporate-Fascism-Is-The-Government-Of-The-United-States-a-Fascist-Form-Of-Governance#:~:text=Benito%20Mussolini%20%28speaking%20of%20corporate%20fascism%29%20The%20concept,of%20individuals.%20This%20is%20known%20as%20an%20Oligarchy.

A lot of dark future rpgs like shadowrun have the idea of corporations controlling or simply replacing government.

Check this out as well.

https://spectator.us/topic/tyranny-inevitable-consequence-liberalism/?fbclid=IwAR0fEsohinEzIFxerpCkRDHOzySEXjnGWBhnl_tPlYqJpfEG4z1ZGqL77Us

Are any of those RPGs an Utopia? or are all of them Dystopias?

Rep economies are the modern day equivalent of the Public Shaming of years past. This time the Puritans are on the left, I fought against the Satanic Panic, I won't bend the knee for the new moral panic.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

#164
May 02, 2021, 12:32:13 PM
Quote from: matt swain on May 02, 2021, 03:53:24 AM
I think this game was written by some shitlord wanting to make the left look bad.

No True Scottsman, it's a logical fallacy. Humans are capable of evil, those sucked into a cult like Ideology even more so. If your setting is to have any internal consistency it needs to reflect that.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell
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