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Author Topic: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.  (Read 6998 times)

Rob Necronomicon

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https://blackfiskforlag.com/products/blood-feud/?fbclid=IwAR3fy0CzhWJwPgrQaWFDGHqzsWJg8TvKHJbhqBt3hx3lzNXw0-sqC82XI0c

'The goal of the game is to explore and experience toxic masculinity, while at the same time creating a thoughtful drama about relationships, competition and social consequences. With this game we want to make toxic masculinity easier to spot for a wider variety of people in our roleplaying communities—and encourage critical discussions about how men behave, and why.'

'There are also mechanics in place that deal specifically with the role of women in the game. The first one: there must always be at least one woman present in every scene. When the last woman in a scene leaves, the scene simply ends. We are only interested in what happens publicly when looking at honor, so what happens when women are not watching doesn’t count.'

This sounds like more of a punishment than an actual game. :(

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2021, 07:39:48 AM »
Sounds like somebody wants to play a Viking-themed fanasy RPG and has cleverly disguised it as diversity training.

At least I hope that is what’s happening.

Rob Necronomicon

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2021, 07:43:31 AM »
Well, someone has to tech us bad men how to behave at the table! LOL

I really hope they employed a sensitivity reader or two!
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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2021, 07:45:27 AM »
So much about toxic masculinity, but what about...

https://areomagazine.com/2021/01/26/social-justice-culture-and-toxic-femininity/

Weren't there a couple of games mocking 'social justice' culture?

(Areo is a slightly leftier Quillette.)

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2021, 07:54:44 AM »
“ The men came with shields and sticks. She was given a cup of intoxicating drink; she sang at taking it and drank. The interpreter told me that she in this fashion bade farewell to all her girl companions. Then she was given another cup; she took it and sang for a long time while the old woman incited her to drink up and go into the pavillion where her master lay. I saw that she was distracted; she wanted to enter the pavillion but put her head between it and the boat. Then the old woman siezed her head and made her enter the pavillion and entered with her. Thereupon the men began to strike with the sticks on the shields so that her cries could not be heard and the other slave girls would not seek to escape death with their masters. Then six men went into the pavillion and each had intercourse with the girl. Then they laid her at the side of her master; two held her feet and two her hands; the old woman known as the Angel of Death re-entered and looped a cord around her neck and gave the crossed ends to the two men for them to pull. Then she approached her with a broad-bladed dagger, which she plunged between her ribs repeatedly, and the men strangled her with the cord until she was dead.” ~ from Ahmad Ibn Fadlahn’s description of a norse funeral.

Rob Necronomicon

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2021, 08:00:39 AM »
I've a great idea... How can we suck all the fun out an RPG? And we can teach these evil men just how they should be playing their games at the same time. Win... win... right?
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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2021, 08:04:53 AM »
So much about toxic masculinity, but what about...

https://areomagazine.com/2021/01/26/social-justice-culture-and-toxic-femininity/

Weren't there a couple of games mocking 'social justice' culture?

(Areo is a slightly leftier Quillette.)

That is a very well written and well researched article, she (the author), is probably going to get slammed for daring to express contrary opinion in a public space.

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2021, 08:20:26 AM »
“ The men came with shields and sticks. She was given a cup of intoxicating drink; she sang at taking it and drank. The interpreter told me that she in this fashion bade farewell to all her girl companions. Then she was given another cup; she took it and sang for a long time while the old woman incited her to drink up and go into the pavillion where her master lay. I saw that she was distracted; she wanted to enter the pavillion but put her head between it and the boat. Then the old woman siezed her head and made her enter the pavillion and entered with her. Thereupon the men began to strike with the sticks on the shields so that her cries could not be heard and the other slave girls would not seek to escape death with their masters. Then six men went into the pavillion and each had intercourse with the girl. Then they laid her at the side of her master; two held her feet and two her hands; the old woman known as the Angel of Death re-entered and looped a cord around her neck and gave the crossed ends to the two men for them to pull. Then she approached her with a broad-bladed dagger, which she plunged between her ribs repeatedly, and the men strangled her with the cord until she was dead.” ~ from Ahmad Ibn Fadlahn’s description of a norse funeral.
Keep in mind that's from Eaters of the Dead by Michael Crichton, and the book is a retelling of Beowulf in the form of a 'found manuscript' (as opposed to 'found footage'). The narrator also insists Northmen were some of the filthiest men on Earth, when later archeological expeditions have called this into question.

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2021, 08:35:47 AM »
“ The men came with shields and sticks. She was given a cup of intoxicating drink; she sang at taking it and drank. The interpreter told me that she in this fashion bade farewell to all her girl companions. Then she was given another cup; she took it and sang for a long time while the old woman incited her to drink up and go into the pavillion where her master lay. I saw that she was distracted; she wanted to enter the pavillion but put her head between it and the boat. Then the old woman siezed her head and made her enter the pavillion and entered with her. Thereupon the men began to strike with the sticks on the shields so that her cries could not be heard and the other slave girls would not seek to escape death with their masters. Then six men went into the pavillion and each had intercourse with the girl. Then they laid her at the side of her master; two held her feet and two her hands; the old woman known as the Angel of Death re-entered and looped a cord around her neck and gave the crossed ends to the two men for them to pull. Then she approached her with a broad-bladed dagger, which she plunged between her ribs repeatedly, and the men strangled her with the cord until she was dead.” ~ from Ahmad Ibn Fadlahn’s description of a norse funeral.
Keep in mind that's from Eaters of the Dead by Michael Crichton, and the book is a retelling of Beowulf in the form of a 'found manuscript' (as opposed to 'found footage'). The narrator also insists Northmen were some of the filthiest men on Earth, when later archeological expeditions have called this into question.

Ahmad Ibn Fadlahn ‘s writings predate Chrichton’s by 1000 years. 

My point in including it here was to illustrate how it was the old woman who murdered the slave girl. 

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2021, 09:15:39 AM »
There was the Indian practice of suttee (sati), which the Brits put a stop to...

So it's been around the world.

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2021, 09:33:20 AM »
“ The men came with shields and sticks. She was given a cup of intoxicating drink; she sang at taking it and drank. The interpreter told me that she in this fashion bade farewell to all her girl companions. Then she was given another cup; she took it and sang for a long time while the old woman incited her to drink up and go into the pavillion where her master lay. I saw that she was distracted; she wanted to enter the pavillion but put her head between it and the boat. Then the old woman siezed her head and made her enter the pavillion and entered with her. Thereupon the men began to strike with the sticks on the shields so that her cries could not be heard and the other slave girls would not seek to escape death with their masters. Then six men went into the pavillion and each had intercourse with the girl. Then they laid her at the side of her master; two held her feet and two her hands; the old woman known as the Angel of Death re-entered and looped a cord around her neck and gave the crossed ends to the two men for them to pull. Then she approached her with a broad-bladed dagger, which she plunged between her ribs repeatedly, and the men strangled her with the cord until she was dead.” ~ from Ahmad Ibn Fadlahn’s description of a norse funeral.
Keep in mind that's from Eaters of the Dead by Michael Crichton, and the book is a retelling of Beowulf in the form of a 'found manuscript' (as opposed to 'found footage'). The narrator also insists Northmen were some of the filthiest men on Earth, when later archeological expeditions have called this into question.

Ahmad Ibn Fadlahn ‘s writings predate Chrichton’s by 1000 years. 

My point in including it here was to illustrate how it was the old woman who murdered the slave girl. 

Gotta eliminate the competition for attention.

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2021, 12:48:54 PM »
Sounds like somebody wants to play a Viking-themed fanasy RPG and has cleverly disguised it as diversity training.

At least I hope that is what’s happening.

Sounds like the reverse to me ....

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2021, 01:53:45 PM »
Sounds like somebody wants to play a Viking-themed fanasy RPG and has cleverly disguised it as diversity training.

No GM, no dice, no cards.  And it is, of course, coming soon to Kickstarter.

I'm sure there are people who will greatly enjoy this sort of thing, but I'd rather spend my ever-dwindling RPG time having some fun instead of getting lectured.

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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2021, 02:10:56 PM »
There's so much wrong with the idea of Toxic Masculinity I don't know where to start. So instead, I'll just say "Hard pass", and post a funny meme.


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Re: Blood Feud - A viking RPG about Toxic Masculinity and its effects.
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2021, 02:49:52 PM »
I'm convinced that no one ever actually plays these games.