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Author Topic: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store  (Read 3731 times)

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BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« on: February 02, 2023, 02:07:15 PM »
As the tin says, this is to remind/promote to gamers/developers/publishers that there is an alternative to DTTRPG that's not politically aligned.

We cry, complain and bellyache that DTTRPG censors along politcal lines and bends the knee to the woke, yet, is ANY of the known developers/publishers here selling there? Why the fuck not?

Leaving the link to it below:

https://biggeekemporium.com/
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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2023, 02:27:42 PM »
As the tin says, this is to remind/promote to gamers/developers/publishers that there is an alternative to DTTRPG that's not politically aligned.

We cry, complain and bellyache that DTTRPG censors along politcal lines and bends the knee to the woke, yet, is ANY of the known developers/publishers here selling there? Why the fuck not?

Leaving the link to it below:

https://biggeekemporium.com/

I noticed the monthly Basic Expert Zine, is listed there.
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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2023, 02:55:47 PM »
We cry, complain and bellyache that DTTRPG censors along politcal lines and bends the knee to the woke, yet, is ANY of the known developers/publishers here selling there? Why the fuck not?


Well, I'm not a publisher, but... My first two thoughts would "because nobody knows about it" (first I've heard of it, anyways) and "the site's UI is atrocious".

No idea what the interface is like publisher-side.

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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2023, 03:01:18 PM »
We cry, complain and bellyache that DTTRPG censors along politcal lines and bends the knee to the woke, yet, is ANY of the known developers/publishers here selling there? Why the fuck not?


Well, I'm not a publisher, but... My first two thoughts would "because nobody knows about it" (first I've heard of it, anyways) and "the site's UI is atrocious".

No idea what the interface is like publisher-side.

I asure you some publishers/developers here know about it but aren't there.

"because nobody knows about it" well now you know.

"the site's UI is atrocious" Is that more important than the free speech principle?
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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2023, 03:29:22 PM »
If it's painful to find items on it, most people won't touch it.

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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2023, 03:35:24 PM »
"the site's UI is atrocious" Is that more important than the free speech principle?

"I'm giving away FREE dogshit sandwiches! What do you mean you don't want one?! IT'S FREE!"

The UI is pretty awful on BGE. While this shouldn't discourage anyone from uploading to the site, it does make it difficult to find/browse anything. For a lot of people, that's a turnoff.

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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2023, 03:41:22 PM »
We cry, complain and bellyache that DTTRPG censors along politcal lines and bends the knee to the woke, yet, is ANY of the known developers/publishers here selling there? Why the fuck not?


Well, I'm not a publisher, but... My first two thoughts would "because nobody knows about it" (first I've heard of it, anyways) and "the site's UI is atrocious".

No idea what the interface is like publisher-side.

I asure you some publishers/developers here know about it but aren't there.

"because nobody knows about it" well now you know.

"the site's UI is atrocious" Is that more important than the free speech principle?
You presume its one or the other when there's also "neither."

Its the same reason (barring exceptions like "The Chosen" where those involved actually applied the actual principles of dramatic writing and had good actors and production values) that no one really watches Christian entertainment; most of it is just BAD! Badly written, badly acted, badly filmed. If you are prone to second-hand embarrassment, it will almost invariably trigger it. Zeal without talent is worse than nothing at all.

If you're going to do something, take the time to do it well. There is a need for free speech in the marketplace of ideas. That doesn't mean you have run to the first badly assembled, not really anything I'd be interested in buying website that calls itself a Free Speech site. Zeal without talent is worse than nothing at all.

ETA: Page Two of an unfiltered search is also NSFW. That's going to be another big turn off.
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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2023, 03:46:44 PM »
As the tin says, this is to remind/promote to gamers/developers/publishers that there is an alternative to DTTRPG that's not politically aligned.

We cry, complain and bellyache that DTTRPG censors along politcal lines and bends the knee to the woke, yet, is ANY of the known developers/publishers here selling there? Why the fuck not?

Leaving the link to it below:

https://biggeekemporium.com/

Neato! Great find.

I will certainly keep them in mind when I'm shopping around.

As for UI, who cares at this point? They just started up, and refining a design takes time. It's also a trap startups fall into. Don't worry about refining UI until you have data on how people use your site.  Cart, horse, etc.

Right now I'm sure their priority is getting a more products listed. If they can do that successfully, refinements will follow.
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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2023, 03:49:37 PM »
We cry, complain and bellyache that DTTRPG censors along politcal lines and bends the knee to the woke, yet, is ANY of the known developers/publishers here selling there? Why the fuck not?


Well, I'm not a publisher, but... My first two thoughts would "because nobody knows about it" (first I've heard of it, anyways) and "the site's UI is atrocious".

No idea what the interface is like publisher-side.

I asure you some publishers/developers here know about it but aren't there.

"because nobody knows about it" well now you know.

"the site's UI is atrocious" Is that more important than the free speech principle?
You presume its one or the other when there's also "neither."

Its the same reason (barring exceptions like "The Chosen" where those involved actually applied the actual principles of dramatic writing and had good actors and production values) that no one really watches Christian entertainment; most of it is just BAD! Badly written, badly acted, badly filmed. If you are prone to second-hand embarrassment, it will almost invariably trigger it. Zeal without talent is worse than nothing at all.

If you're going to do something, take the time to do it well. There is a need for free speech in the marketplace of ideas. That doesn't mean you have run to the first badly assembled, not really anything I'd be interested in buying website that calls itself a Free Speech site. Zeal without talent is worse than nothing at all.

ETA: Page Two of an unfiltered search is also NSFW. That's going to be another big turn off.

I'm not the owner of the site.

Fine, you keep on licking the corporate/woke boot, IDGAFF.
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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2023, 03:55:38 PM »
I plan on putting a few products on BGE, but I haven't gotten around to doing so yet.

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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2023, 03:55:53 PM »
Fine, you keep on licking the corporate/woke boot, IDGAFF.
Again, you presume the answer is one (DTRPG) or the other (BGE) when NEITHER is also an option.

I prefer to order through my local game store when I actually buy something.

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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2023, 04:29:27 PM »
I asure you some publishers/developers here know about it but aren't there.

"because nobody knows about it" well now you know.

"the site's UI is atrocious" Is that more important than the free speech principle?

First, you or I, we don't matter. We're not enough to matter. Hell, the entire population of this forum probably isn't enough to matter, except to very small publishers. It's the hellish catch-22 of trying to start up something like this - you need a user base and a publisher base, and both need the other to really make it work. Publishers won't bother selling if there is no market, and you won't have a market unless there are publishers selling product people want to buy.

Second, is the UI more important than the principles driving the website? Bluntly, yes. If I can't find stuff on the site without frustration, I'm going to give up in frustration. I don't need anything on that website. It's not like grocery shopping, where I've gotta hold my nose and do it, buying some new gaming PDFs? Purely a luxury.

It's no different than went wokeists try to do their alternative "totally-not-capitalism-guys-trust-us-but-buy-our-shit" businesses and they have all sorts of problems as a result of being fucking braindead wokeists. Running a business is hard, but you gotta do it right, or you will, like the majority of small businesses, fail. Ideology will only carry you so far.

Flippin' hell, I'm not saying I want them to fail. You come here, you ask why people aren't using it, I offer a couple of quick suggestions, and you respond with derision ("It's not important!") and outright hostility (Accusing people of being bootlickers for not using your preferred storefront). Don't ask the question next time.


Its the same reason (barring exceptions like "The Chosen" where those involved actually applied the actual principles of dramatic writing and had good actors and production values) that no one really watches Christian entertainment; most of it is just BAD! Badly written, badly acted, badly filmed. If you are prone to second-hand embarrassment, it will almost invariably trigger it. Zeal without talent is worse than nothing at all.

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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2023, 04:59:51 PM »
"Can't you see you're not making Christianity better, you're just making Rock-and-Roll worse?"

-Hank Hill, modern day prophet.
The problem with both Big Geek Emporium and the majority of Christian entertainment is they’re more interested in pushing The Message than the actual quality of the service offered.

“Free Speech! Did you know we support Free Speech? Because we make sure to mention it on every page! Who cares if you can’t actually find anything on the site because we’re for Free Speech!”

In this sense they’re basically just another flavor of the Woke… push The Message over delivering a well crafted product… equality extremist, just pushing from the opposite direction.

The reason Top Gun: Maverick made ALL the money last year wasn’t that it was some anti-Woke screed. It was just a good story that was crafted really well and put telling that story ahead of everything else.

If you’re going to put up a site to sell RPGs then the first priority needs to be on delivering on the ability to easily search for and buy RPGs. Do that well and you’ll get more people actually selling their products there than just fellow ideologues and those selling products they literally can’t sell anywhere else (again, page two above the fold is some book with a masked woman with her breasts bared… so not someplace I can send my pre-teen godkids or their parents to look for game books).

Right now it feels like a site that’s just pushing “aren’t we so edgy” a little too hard.

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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2023, 05:40:52 PM »
It's a good start, but needs more work before it's ready for prime time.

Of course, it needs a plan to draw a crowd of buyers. Word of mouth isn't enough. It certainly needs to become aggressive on social media to capture mindspace.

I see Venger is posting some goodies there:
https://biggeekemporium.com/product/the-good-symaarian/

But Geeky is right. We can't bitch about DriveTard and not step up to help Big Geek Emporium before it becomes "perfect".

My plate is filled for the next few weeks, but before June, I will make the effort to post some content on BGE, even if its just a free download adventure thingie.


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Re: BigGeekEmporium New Free Speech Game Store
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2023, 06:04:52 PM »
I guess I have low standards, because it doesn't look that bad to me!  The 1980s high school and Blaxploitation games look like something I'd be interested in.