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Author Topic: BFRPG Going Woke  (Read 4830 times)

GeekyBugle

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BFRPG Going Woke
« on: January 19, 2023, 12:35:32 PM »
Like the tin says, Gonnerman is changing the pronouns on his game, I mean it's his shit and he can do whatever and I would have exactly zero problem with it if it weren't for the fact that we KNOW it's just a matter of giving the woke an inch before they take control of your shit.

It's okay, the change will be in the 4ed that'll be under CC By SA which means someone could make Advanced Iron Age Fantasy and revert any wokeisms they manage to push into the game.

As for the proof?

It starts in page 162 or 163 but here's a link:

https://basicfantasy.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=776&sid=7a682a3b8d698e0a8a1f47792ada3735&start=1620
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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2023, 12:44:11 PM »
As one poster said there, 'it's activism creeping in'.

Nothing needs to change except for the SRD, but you've got to make the kids feel all fuzzy wuzzy.

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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2023, 01:01:58 PM »
As one poster said there, 'it's activism creeping in'.

Nothing needs to change except for the SRD, but you've got to make the kids feel all fuzzy wuzzy.

Exactly, and he bent the knee to 2 people in his forum, I would imagine now they'll call on more activists since he already showed weakness and will pressure him to make more changes, "What do you mean Orcs are evil!? Don't you know they are black people!?".

Well, as soon as the new edition is out I'll start working on Retro Fantasy RPG, undoing all the wokeisms there, then publish it on the Geek Emperium. PWYW (If they have the option or free if they allow me, if not then in my blog with a buy me a beer button or something.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

― George Orwell

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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2023, 01:06:35 PM »
I'll start working on Retro Fantasy RPG, undoing all the wokeisms there, then publish it on the Geek Emperium. PWYW (If they have the option or free if they allow me, if not then in my blog with a buy me a beer button or something.

This is the key.
Us making our own shit while gatekeeping the childish politics and the American uber-political correctness.

I mean... bending the knee just because of one or two dweebs - it's really pathetic.
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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2023, 01:10:33 PM »
I'll start working on Retro Fantasy RPG, undoing all the wokeisms there, then publish it on the Geek Emperium. PWYW (If they have the option or free if they allow me, if not then in my blog with a buy me a beer button or something.

This is the key.
Us making our own shit while gatekeeping the childish politics and the American uber-political correctness.

I mean... bending the knee just because of one or two dweebs - it's really pathetic.

I wouldn't bend it for a thousand sparkle trolls reeing.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

― George Orwell

Rob Necronomicon

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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2023, 01:13:26 PM »
I'll start working on Retro Fantasy RPG, undoing all the wokeisms there, then publish it on the Geek Emperium. PWYW (If they have the option or free if they allow me, if not then in my blog with a buy me a beer button or something.

This is the key.
Us making our own shit while gatekeeping the childish politics and the American uber-political correctness.

I mean... bending the knee just because of one or two dweebs - it's really pathetic.

I wouldn't bend it for a thousand sparkle trolls reeing.

Fooking right mate. Never compromise or censor your art because of someone's feefees. And if they don't like it they can go off and kick rocks.
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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2023, 01:29:19 PM »
I'll start working on Retro Fantasy RPG, undoing all the wokeisms there, then publish it on the Geek Emperium. PWYW (If they have the option or free if they allow me, if not then in my blog with a buy me a beer button or something.

This is the key.
Us making our own shit while gatekeeping the childish politics and the American uber-political correctness.

I mean... bending the knee just because of one or two dweebs - it's really pathetic.

I wouldn't bend it for a thousand sparkle trolls reeing.

Fooking right mate. Never compromise or censor your art because of someone's feefees. And if they don't like it they can go off and kick rocks.

Just you wait till I'm done with it, I'll have the Sparkle Trolls Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeing like Trump just got re-elected.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

― George Orwell

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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2023, 01:33:31 PM »
I'll start working on Retro Fantasy RPG, undoing all the wokeisms there, then publish it on the Geek Emperium. PWYW (If they have the option or free if they allow me, if not then in my blog with a buy me a beer button or something.

This is the key.
Us making our own shit while gatekeeping the childish politics and the American uber-political correctness.

I mean... bending the knee just because of one or two dweebs - it's really pathetic.

I wouldn't bend it for a thousand sparkle trolls reeing.

Fooking right mate. Never compromise or censor your art because of someone's feefees. And if they don't like it they can go off and kick rocks.

Just you wait till I'm done with it, I'll have the Sparkle Trolls Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeing like Trump just got re-elected.

Haw haw haw... looking forward to it mate!
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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2023, 01:34:58 PM »
I forget what book it was, but it alternated between “he” and “she” each chapter.

I felt so unrepresented!! I could only read every second chapter!!!

The rational and autist solution here is to nuke all pronouns except one, be it “he” “she” “it” or “whatever”. Here’s your pronoun it’s the same as everyone else’s, fuck you.
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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2023, 01:40:50 PM »
I forget what book it was, but it alternated between “he” and “she” each chapter.

I felt so unrepresented!! I could only read every second chapter!!!

The rational and autist solution here is to nuke all pronouns except one, be it “he” “she” “it” or “whatever”. Here’s your pronoun it’s the same as everyone else’s, fuck you.

EXACTLY!

Back when Dinosaurs roamed the Earth and I was learning English in Junior College I learned the correct gender neutral for persons is He.

Don't feel represented? Too bad, cry me a river
Don't feel "safe" reading/playing the game? Oh no! Well anyway
Think Clerics/Paladins should be able to be Atheists? Bwahahahahahahha kiss my latino ass.
Think Orcs are Black People? Go fuck yourself fucking racist.

And that's the correct answer to the Sparkle Trolls ALWAYS.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2023, 01:43:57 PM »
I was speaking of BFRPG in a very positive light, the other day.  Man.....  Now I regret having done so.  Why do people insist upon fixing what isn't broken?
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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2023, 01:58:29 PM »
Why do the people who do none of the work get to make decisions in any way?
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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2023, 02:03:51 PM »
This is stupid no matter which way you look at it.
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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2023, 02:06:32 PM »
Well, that's a shame.

That said, while I'm not remotely Woke, I do prefer a more conversational tone in my writing so tend to default to "You" or "Your PC/Group" or "The/Your GM" in the Player's Guide and to "You" and "The/Your PC's/Players/Group" in the GM's Guide. For mechanics targeting others its "target, creature, object, ally, or enemy" depending on the ability (target is "anything", creature is "any creature", object is "any object", ally and enemy is "any creature allied or opposed to you based on your perceptions of them when using the action").

Alternately for various mechanics I just skip the pronoun entirely (ex. "Add 2 to Deceit, Insight and Stealth") because its perfectly clear from the section who is supposed to be doing what and shorter lines are easier to read/less cluttered.

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Re: BFRPG Going Woke
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2023, 02:18:54 PM »
I forget what book it was, but it alternated between “he” and “she” each chapter.

I felt so unrepresented!! I could only read every second chapter!!!

The rational and autist solution here is to nuke all pronouns except one, be it “he” “she” “it” or “whatever”. Here’s your pronoun it’s the same as everyone else’s, fuck you.
I remember that too, except it alternated he and she every page.

Oddly, I didn't mind it, though it must've been a pain in the ass to edit. But oh well.