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Best system to run warhammer fantasy with?

Started by Ocule, November 26, 2021, 01:24:18 PM

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Ocule

Title is self explanatory, i'm looking for a game to run warhammer fantasy with or a game inspired by the warhammer fantasy setting. As of right now nothing is really off the table, but i'm looking at warhammer fantasy roleplay 1st, 2nd or 4th edition, GURPS, warlock! Savage worlds, Open d6 or some variation of BRP.

I got quite a few recommendations the only one that i'm not keen on is the one by mr. fox, he's a cunt and i'm not sure i would want to play his game even if i got it for free. (I think i actually did get it for free but the dude is such a POS it soured the grapes for me)
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HappyDaze

I really liked WFRP 2e. I think I might like WFRP 4e, but I've not played it yet. It has more crunch than 2e, but I'm not sure that's necessarily a good thing. Still, if you like lots of bits for your players to toy with, 4e still has the WFRP feel down, and their products are beautiful. Most recent pdf even allows ogre PCs (subject to GM approval, of course).

shoplifter

I'd probably go with 2e, but you're going to have a rough time getting hard copies of most of that at this point. 4e added in some (imo, needless) crunch, but there are plenty of posts out there with house rules that you could pull it out or modify. For the most part, 2e and 4e are generally compatible though.


Tubesock Army

I'd use Zweihander. It's sleeker than WFRP4, and there is a fan made rule expansion to play using Zwei rules and WFRP setting:
https://www.kalevalahammer.com/p/blog-page_10.html

shoplifter

Quote from: Tubesock Army on November 26, 2021, 02:03:41 PM
I'd use Zweihander. It's sleeker than WFRP4, and there is a fan made rule expansion to play using Zwei rules and WFRP setting:
https://www.kalevalahammer.com/p/blog-page_10.html

Ocule already said he didn't want to give Fox any money

bat

1e or 4e at this point because, as others have said, 2e is hard to get. I am considering using BoL/Everywhen as the core, introducing the careers from WFRP and flavoring the magic system with Warhammery goodness.
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Godfather Punk

Shadow of the Demon Lord is a d20 variant for when Warhammer isn't grimdark enough.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Godfather Punk on November 26, 2021, 02:53:50 PM
Shadow of the Demon Lord is a d20 variant for when Warhammer isn't grimdark enough.
Yes and no. I like SotDL, but the characters feel much more like D&D characters in a WFRP/D&D hybrid setting (and with somewhat of a WFRP life expectancy). It's a fun game, but it doesn't feel like WFRP to me. There's too little of the politics and mundane struggles that I think of eith WFRP. On the other hand, if your WFRP is more focused on the end times and fighting face to face with beasties and Chaos warriors, then SotDL may do it better.

Also, SotDL uses a d20, but it is not a "d20 game" the way 3e-derivitaves are.

jeff37923

Weirdly, I think that Sword of Cepheus or Barbaric! might be able to emulate the gameplay of Warhammer Fantasy pretty well.
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David Johansen

First or second edition Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay would be fine.

If not, I'd suggest Rolemaster Standard System, Dungeoneer The Fighting Fantasy rpg, or Maelstrom.
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Quote from: shoplifter on November 26, 2021, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on November 26, 2021, 02:03:41 PM
I'd use Zweihander. It's sleeker than WFRP4, and there is a fan made rule expansion to play using Zwei rules and WFRP setting:
https://www.kalevalahammer.com/p/blog-page_10.html

Ocule already said he didn't want to give Fox any money
Same boat, I would touch that game based on the douche canoe who "made" it.

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Jaeger

OpenQuest d100 would be a good fit as well.

More of a BRP derived rules set - but it then has the benefit of being able to mine BRP for stuff.
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Quote from: Willmark on November 27, 2021, 04:10:29 PM
Quote from: shoplifter on November 26, 2021, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on November 26, 2021, 02:03:41 PM
I'd use Zweihander. It's sleeker than WFRP4, and there is a fan made rule expansion to play using Zwei rules and WFRP setting:
https://www.kalevalahammer.com/p/blog-page_10.html

Ocule already said he didn't want to give Fox any money
Same boat, I would touch that game based on the douche canoe who "made" it.


Care to explain it? I think I can gather what happened but you might throw me for a surprise.
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Ocule

Quote from: PsyXypher on November 27, 2021, 06:45:26 PM
Quote from: Willmark on November 27, 2021, 04:10:29 PM
Quote from: shoplifter on November 26, 2021, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on November 26, 2021, 02:03:41 PM
I'd use Zweihander. It's sleeker than WFRP4, and there is a fan made rule expansion to play using Zwei rules and WFRP setting:
https://www.kalevalahammer.com/p/blog-page_10.html

Ocule already said he didn't want to give Fox any money
Same boat, I would touch that game based on the douche canoe who "made" it.


Care to explain it? I think I can gather what happened but you might throw me for a surprise.

From what I can actually remember off hand, he and pundit I know had a back and forth but as I understand it he's harassed people not sure if it got legal or not. My reasons are he pretty much copy pasted whfrp 2e filed off the serial numbers and then aggressively goes after anyone who so much as looks at his "IP" sideways. His games lecture the reader on various isms, and my final straw for him was I went into the discord asking about the game. He's even got a bot in there that filters banned words and phrases and oh boy it is extensive. I think he makes the high lords of terra jealous with how extensive it is. Basically if you're going to play his whfrp clone then just pirate everything.

From the little bit I actually talked to him the dude just lives and breathes cringe. I didn't get banned or make a big scene I just quietly left the server and good riddance. Like you know those people you meet and you immediately know you don't like them?
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