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BAIZUO (pazio) Going Union! The beginning of the end!?

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Svenhelgrim:
If they work from home, they will have to clean their own carpets. 

SHARK:
Greetings!

I'm always boggled by how companies like Baizuo somehow even manage to tolerate all of these wacked out, mentally-ill social misfits that have huge senses of entitlement and are trainwrecks full of attitude problems.

I have worked for and have been familiar with so many companies that, yeah, you don't get with the program, cop some kind of fucking attitude with fellow employees or your supervisors or managers, and you are fucking *gone*. In a blink, that fast. You collect you final check in a few days, and welcome to being fucking unemployed.

There's no lawyers to save you, no legal BS, no options for you. You are FIRED because you have a fucking attitude problem, can't get along well with fellow employees, or have an uncooperative, argumentative, or insubordinate attitude towards management.

I don't know how these fucking slugs manage to stay employed. I can think of many companies where they wouldn't make it past collecting one paycheck.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Bunch:
I don't get the sense the issue was with fellow employees though. It seemed the rift was more with management.  When there's an excess of labor then the situation and scenarios Shark describes are the likely outcome.  As labor becomes the more scarce resource then management needs to adjust to the situation.  Either need less employees and screen to find the most compliant which may not meet the talent needs or be more active in listening and acting on the employee requests. 

This was already happening in Tech. Most of us have hear of the on campus chefs, laundry, personal assistants available at a top tech company like Google, Apple, etc.  They were competing for a limit few workers that they felt they absolutely had to have and extra costs would be earned back.   That's where we are getting with the lower end of the labor market.  It's going to mean some inflation and potentially killing some low margin businesses that don't adapt to needing less labor.  But those that survive are likely to see a rise in the number of people purchasing their products.   The one thing I'm not sure is will we see a rise in productivity to accompany the rise in wages.   

Zalman:

--- Quote from: Bunch on October 25, 2021, 02:04:12 AM ---I don't get the sense the issue was with fellow employees though. It seemed the rift was more with management.
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In a truly functional company, managers are viewed as "fellow employees". Either way, there's not much difference to upper management, to whom everyone but the C-suite folks is an "employee".


--- Quote from: Bunch ---
This was already happening in Tech. Most of us have hear of the on campus chefs, laundry, personal assistants available at a top tech company like Google, Apple, etc.  They were competing for a limit few workers that they felt they absolutely had to have and extra costs would be earned back.

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Interesting take. Most tech folks I know (having been in the business a few decades now) see it differently: those amenities are not designed to attract employees but rather to keep them on campus, by ensuring every life-need is covered. Employees that stay on site work more.

Lynn:

--- Quote from: Zalman on October 25, 2021, 10:55:19 AM ---Interesting take. Most tech folks I know (having been in the business a few decades now) see it differently: those amenities are not designed to attract employees but rather to keep them on campus, by ensuring every life-need is covered. Employees that stay on site work more.

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That's right. Besides, if you are the sort to get hired at the most highly desired employers, they rarely are going to offer something that is truly unique.

In some cases, the same amenities are used to conduct business. When I worked for Qualcomm in the later 90s, there was a complete bar. If you wanted to have a drink with a client and it wasn't entirely after work hours, you could take that client down to the bar.

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