Quote from: GeekyBugle on September 10, 2022, 01:57:52 PM
Oh, goody, now we have a nazi apologist and a tard that loves to measure skulls but says he's not a nazi.

Buying popcorn.

My dude.

Are you actually gullible enough to think that I take phrenology or physiognomy seriously? Or do you think that I was saying shit to get under the idiot's skin? Think for a fucking second. Or do you believe everything on the Internet? Because if that's the case, then I have a Nigerian Prince you might want to talk to.  I literally have a SHIZO STAR as my avatar and my name is "I HATE THE ANTICHRIST." Like, consider that maybe, just maybe I'm just taking the piss and not taking anything seriously, because it's the Internet.

Quote from: Omega on September 10, 2022, 07:24:17 PM
Well before Discord they were working on the old text MMOs and e-groups like Yahhell before it completely erased every group. BGG and The-other-place, were spearheading the movement.

They infest anything and everything they can. Nothing is safe.

Yeah, but you can and should gatekeep. People shouldn't feel welcome until you want them there.

Quote from: I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE on September 10, 2022, 08:20:46 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on September 10, 2022, 01:57:52 PM
Oh, goody, now we have a nazi apologist and a tard that loves to measure skulls but says he's not a nazi.

Buying popcorn.

My dude.

Are you actually gullible enough to think that I take phrenology or physiognomy seriously? Or do you think that I was saying shit to get under the idiot's skin? Think for a fucking second. Or do you believe everything on the Internet? Because if that's the case, then I have a Nigerian Prince you might want to talk to.  I literally have a SHIZO STAR as my avatar and my name is "I HATE THE ANTICHRIST." Like, consider that maybe, just maybe I'm just taking the piss and not taking anything seriously, because it's the Internet.

Calm your sparkley tits starshine, he wasn't referring to you.

If he was, well shame on me.

Quote from: Plagued on September 10, 2022, 01:33:35 PM
Anyone had bad experiences?

I joined the Mörk Borg Discord, unknowing of the fact it's infested with woke boys/girls/airplanes. I voice my opinion and get banned after being zerged on the main chat channel on the server but also in my pm inbox. I also got yelled at by Johan Nohr, the illustrator of the game, privately: If you don't adhere to the rules, be a bigot and show respect to people, than you're not welcome here!

I got the same impression after I bought the game and read the book. It gets hyped massively, but it's a big stinkin' pile of woke crap.

A few years back, I bought Troika!, and boy, was I in for a surprise. Love the game, HATE the community (those asshats tried to discredit me on my own Discord server...).

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What's happening with this world? Why are these people so toxic and "violent"?

"Perish with the dogs of reason", said Master Crowley, so just don't try to find a reason. There probably are too many of them. What counts is the bottom line, and that bottom line is fucked up.

Are you there to participate in gaming discussions or politics?  It seems insane to immediately question participants if a Discord channel is woke.

No loss though since it's Mork Borg.  The game is crap and the setting is nothing that hasn't been done hundreds of times.  Some may enjoy the art but it's not my thing.

Quote from: Plagued on September 10, 2022, 01:33:35 PM
What's happening with this world? Why are these people so toxic and "violent"? Don't get me wrong: I love the game. The design especially (since I am also into black metal - one of the genre's that inspired Nohr and Pelle to create the game), but also the game mechanics are brilliantly simple. BUT the community surrounding it - the attitude of the creators included - f*cked it up for me... I hate it.

That´s odd to hear from a scene that uses "Black Metal is intolerance" as a slogan among others such as this (I used to be part of the scene 10+ years, didn´t see much tolerance flying around, quite the opposite infact)

Anyhow, I personally have not been part of any Discord groups, but in a few offline gaming groups and communities infested with red-green-lefties babbling about their veganism, communism, misandry and hatred of rightwing politician x, whom ever they were hating on. Best GM I ever had in my 25ish gaming hobby, but the dorkness was something else. Needless to say, I bailed. Also used to be in other groups that were just plain dumb in other ways, a group of engineers who basically believed everything the media spouted. Education clearly ain´t a sign of capability in thinking for yourself. So yeah, like others mentioned, it is everywhere nowdays.

This might not be exactly what you are after and I´m not sure if it works for you, though what I´v done is I handpicked individuals for my
gaming group, many groups seem to have atleast one sound-minded individual which you get along with and can hopefully drag in your group and ditch the rest 

Quote from: Lee on September 10, 2022, 05:04:14 PM

Quote from: Plagued on September 10, 2022, 01:33:35 PM
Anyone had bad experiences?

I joined the Mörk Borg Discord, unknowing of the fact it's infested with woke boys/girls/airplanes. I voice my opinion and get banned ...  <snip>

Everywhere is like that now.  It's exceptionally demotivating.

I took a break from the hobby for about a decade because RL.  I come back and discover that the inmates are running the asylum.

If I didn't already have a million things requiring my attention, I'd start some kind of ttrpg podcast, just to try to push back with an alternate perspective.

Not long ago, I got banned from a discord for simply stating that I thought that maybe we ought to leave our RL politics at the door when we come to the table, and try to enjoy our imaginary fantasy worlds together as friends, without all the divisive crap.  But I guess "silence is violence" or whatever-the-fk nowadays, and anyone who isn't a raving woke idiot is adjacent to Uncle Adolf.  Kek.

Dragonsfoot and RPGpub seem to still be mostly ok.  They're not explicitly UNwoke, but they're not infested with crazies either.  This place is alright, but (no offense guys) I feel like the ratio of political talk to actual gaming talk skews too far into the political.  I'm guilty of that too I am sure, but just saying.

That being said, I do think it is important to participate in places like Dragonsfoot and RPGpub, so as to gently push back against that kind of crap so that those places remain neutral and don't get taken over by wokists.  Whether by design or circumstance, the wokist agenda with online communities appears to be to find neutral places, infiltrate their moderation team, and start purging people who are not woke.  This must be prevented.

Quote from: Plagued on September 10, 2022, 01:33:35 PMWhat's happening with this world? Why are these people so toxic and "violent"?

When my tinfoil hat is especially tight, I toy with the idea of it being part of a grand Maoist plan to destroy western culture.  That may be a little extreme.  It violates Occam's Razor, after all.

I think it's more likely that it's a self-promoting mass hysteria, much like the Satanic Panic of the 80s.  It is most certainly taken advantage of by various political entities in the authoritarian left to further their own agenda, but I don't think it's a tool entirely invented and controlled by the authoritarian left.

I think that, like the Satanic Panic, it's a "fad of the idiocracy" (tell me again why we have a universal franchise?), and that it will eventually pass into history and we'll look back and laugh at it.  Which isn't to say that we shouldn't fight it tooth and nail in the present, because it is a stupid, evil ideology that destroys everything that it infests.  Just that we can most certainly defeat it if we push back instead of ignoring it in the interest of "tolerance".  Perhaps it's an over-dramatic metaphor, but you ignore the wolves prowling the edge of your pastures at your own peril.

I can't say anything else but: amen to that.
And coming from an atheist, that means a lot ;-) (Added you on Discord)

Quote from: Omega on September 10, 2022, 07:24:17 PM
Well before Discord they were working on the old text MMOs and e-groups like Yahhell before it completely erased every group. BGG and The-other-place, were spearheading the movement.

They infest anything and everything they can. Nothing is safe.

It's a real annoying, hard-to-get-rid-of foot fungus isn't it?

Quote from: THE_Leopold on September 10, 2022, 08:24:27 PM

Quote from: I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE on September 10, 2022, 08:20:46 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on September 10, 2022, 01:57:52 PM
Oh, goody, now we have a nazi apologist and a tard that loves to measure skulls but says he's not a nazi.

Buying popcorn.

My dude.

Are you actually gullible enough to think that I take phrenology or physiognomy seriously? Or do you think that I was saying shit to get under the idiot's skin? Think for a fucking second. Or do you believe everything on the Internet? Because if that's the case, then I have a Nigerian Prince you might want to talk to.  I literally have a SHIZO STAR as my avatar and my name is "I HATE THE ANTICHRIST." Like, consider that maybe, just maybe I'm just taking the piss and not taking anything seriously, because it's the Internet.

Calm your sparkley tits starshine, he wasn't referring to you.

If he was, well shame on me.

Shush.

Quote from: Palleon on September 10, 2022, 08:52:02 PM
Are you there to participate in gaming discussions or politics?  It seems insane to immediately question participants if a Discord channel is woke.

No loss though since it's Mork Borg.  The game is crap and the setting is nothing that hasn't been done hundreds of times.  Some may enjoy the art but it's not my thing.

Yeah, Mörk Borg isn't truly original, but the artwork is insanely well done. And the game is really fun. But I had to cancel my 100 EURO order because "I'm a fascist".

Thanks for your two cents by the way!

Quote from: Angry Goblin on September 11, 2022, 10:46:14 AM

Quote from: Plagued on September 10, 2022, 01:33:35 PM
What's happening with this world? Why are these people so toxic and "violent"? Don't get me wrong: I love the game. The design especially (since I am also into black metal - one of the genre's that inspired Nohr and Pelle to create the game), but also the game mechanics are brilliantly simple. BUT the community surrounding it - the attitude of the creators included - f*cked it up for me... I hate it.

That´s odd to hear from a scene that uses "Black Metal is intolerance" as a slogan among others such as this (I used to be part of the scene 10+ years, didn´t see much tolerance flying around, quite the opposite infact)

Anyhow, I personally have not been part of any Discord groups, but in a few offline gaming groups and communities infested with red-green-lefties babbling about their veganism, communism, misandry and hatred of rightwing politician x, whom ever they were hating on. Best GM I ever had in my 25ish gaming hobby, but the dorkness was something else. Needless to say, I bailed. Also used to be in other groups that were just plain dumb in other ways, a group of engineers who basically believed everything the media spouted. Education clearly ain´t a sign of capability in thinking for yourself. So yeah, like others mentioned, it is everywhere nowdays.

This might not be exactly what you are after and I´m not sure if it works for you, though what I´v done is I handpicked individuals for my
gaming group, many groups seem to have atleast one sound-minded individual which you get along with and can hopefully drag in your group and ditch the rest 

Black metal is intolerance? Black metal is hate (or nihilism - or if it's actually "true": satanic). Hate towards oneself and society. Well, for the most part. Originally.

I've got my own discord and website because I want my own not-so-woke game and Sword and Sorcery lends itself perfectly for this.
Thanks for replying! Appreciate it.

Honestly, the best use for Discord is closed circles among your friends and fellow vetted players.

I'm trying to think if I was heavily invested in any RPG community that manifested the levels of toxicity people are alluding to, and I can honestly say 'Not to my knowledge'. The only community I'm anywhere close to being interested in is Battletech, which has had its ups and downs (especially of late, with Pardoe's unceremonious ejection), but never struck me anywhere near as appalling as the White Wolf community.

I'm picky about the people I communicate with online... I don't spend any time with any RPG groups that bleat on about politics. If I ever want to talk about politics I'll go to a different place. For me, RPGs and politics don't mix.

Quote from: THE_Leopold on September 10, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
Friends don't let friends get on discord. That's your first mistake.

Is there a better place for doing the same thing?

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Quote from: THE_Leopold on September 10, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
Friends don't let friends get on discord. That's your first mistake.

Is there a better place for doing the same thing?

Certain facebook groups?