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Author Topic: Are we seeing the end of combat?  (Read 15820 times)

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #150 on: October 21, 2021, 01:28:32 AM »
And yet D&D isn't Teh Hobby tm.

Who cares what Woketards of the Coast does with it's game? We've seen the writting on the wall long ago.

Baizuo will probably go bankrupt soon. Noone among the other woketard publishers have the chops to become numero uno.

If WotC goes full woke they will lose market share, because the woke are about 8% of the population in the USA and probably much less on other countries. And they don't buy the shit they say they want.

Ig D&D dies? The King is dead, long live the OSR!

Absolutely. And when WOTC goes full Woke (I think that's a given) the OSR movement will grow even stronger.

 

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #151 on: October 21, 2021, 01:33:23 AM »
And yet D&D isn't Teh Hobby tm.

Who cares what Woketards of the Coast does with it's game? We've seen the writting on the wall long ago.

Baizuo will probably go bankrupt soon. Noone among the other woketard publishers have the chops to become numero uno.

If WotC goes full woke they will lose market share, because the woke are about 8% of the population in the USA and probably much less on other countries. And they don't buy the shit they say they want.

Ig D&D dies? The King is dead, long live the OSR!

Absolutely. And when WOTC goes full Woke (I think that's a given) the OSR movement will grow even stronger.

And the woke will go pester someone else since they can't exert pressure against a descentralized movement, they will loose interest in RPGs and concentrate their fire on Wargames... They already infiltrated GW.
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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #152 on: October 21, 2021, 08:06:56 AM »
I would like to note that if you trawl the deep end of the pool, wokeist/SJW games do have combat against opponents.

However, in many cases (at least the ones I've seen), such opponents are somehow fluffed as both weak and terrifying. Cardboard cutout standees that are nevertheless a threat to all that is Good And Right.

My theory regarding this contradictory dichotomy is that wokeists can't stand having opponents that might be challenging, because that implies strength. And they can't have that, because (as they know), only people who think and act 'correctly' have such power ('diversity is our strength!' for example).

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #153 on: October 21, 2021, 08:30:31 AM »
The bolshiviks where not popular with the elites and popular everywhere else.

No they weren't. They were never popular with the vast majority of Russians.

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #154 on: October 21, 2021, 09:38:27 AM »
No they weren't. They were never popular with the vast majority of Russians.

They where the least unpopular which matters in this case.

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #155 on: October 21, 2021, 09:42:58 AM »
Barring a political miracle, I'm fairly confident the military is going to be purged of anti-woke elements soon enough.

The difference between the bolshevics and the SJWs is that the bolsheviks had balls. The SJWs do not.
My family is ex-soviet union, so they very much see the same tactics employed by the commies employed here.

But SJW-ism is such a tier of self destructive and weak it depends way moreso on the complicity of the ruling class in place of their own strength. I see the long-term end result of the SJW plague as a complete economic and social collapse in place of a commie take-over.

They can purge the military of the non-woke....But they will purge it of anybody compitent or capable or charismatic in a military sense. That video is real, but thats more to show that other countries will actually have a shot at taking over the USA after a SJW takover in place of an argument for SJW strength.

The USA military top brass is EXTREMLY insulated and out of touch. And had just had one of the most humiliating defeats in its history (again). Nobody will follow these commanders to shoot their own. Its like if the Tsar was woke and insisted his soldiers march into WWI with high-heels. You fucking bet those soldiers would not follow the bolsheviks.

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(4) I foresee that for all the gritty optimism about how "RPGnet is dying" etc., I still see, according to their own stats anyway, they have over 100,000 members and this place has under 9,000. And, of the ones who bothered to respond to this thread, half see no problem, while the other half slag the messenger. At the risk of being a Cassandra, I think this is naïve.
Mathematically thats pretty innacurate because your talking about a much larger website that retains a log of previous membership.

Again I see destruction moreso likely then subversion. Because this blend of SJW-ism is purely destructive. SJW-ism really struggles against creature comforts because it depends on the consumer culture to not resist it very well.

SJW-ism will fail to ban porn for instance. SJW-ism is thriving because of lack of conviction of the current elite and much of the population, not because its so strong or popular by itself.

I'm not sure if yours is an optimistic or pessimistic analysis, but, I take it into consideration.

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #156 on: October 21, 2021, 10:14:43 AM »
I'm not sure if yours is an optimistic or pessimistic analysis, but, I take it into consideration.

Its a 'both sides' analysis. The bolshevik takeover of Russia was that of a crumbling imperial state. The SJW takeover of the west is that of a decadent spoiled state. People have it so good they have lost all sense of perspective.

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #157 on: October 21, 2021, 10:19:34 AM »
I'm not sure if yours is an optimistic or pessimistic analysis, but, I take it into consideration.

Its a 'both sides' analysis. The bolshevik takeover of Russia was that of a crumbling imperial state. The SJW takeover of the west is that of a decadent spoiled state. People have it so good they have lost all sense of perspective.
Perhaps the belief that everyone has it so good is itself a sign of losing perspective.

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #158 on: October 21, 2021, 10:34:07 AM »
Perhaps the belief that everyone has it so good is itself a sign of losing perspective.
The west is the only place I have travelled too where the homeless turned down my change (after asking for it) because they didn't find it significant enough. Beggars could literally be choosers.

Coming from a failed ex-soviet state, you are high off your tits in terms of privileges and advantages. Even in the current decayed state of society, you are still high off your tits.

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #159 on: October 21, 2021, 11:41:42 AM »
Perhaps the belief that everyone has it so good is itself a sign of losing perspective.
The west is the only place I have travelled too where the homeless turned down my change (after asking for it) because they didn't find it significant enough. Beggars could literally be choosers.

Coming from a failed ex-soviet state, you are high off your tits in terms of privileges and advantages. Even in the current decayed state of society, you are still high off your tits.

Not counting the homeless, most of what the USA calls it's poor are swimming in privileges and advantages, I wish they would come to México so I could give them a tour of the real poverty people elsewhere have to survive in.

Just imagine having a cellphone, TV, Fridge, and a game console and thinking you're poor...

We call that lower middle class here.
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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #160 on: October 21, 2021, 11:44:05 AM »
Mechanistic "games" will always represent physical conflicts better than social conflicts, because the latter are not mechanistic. Same fundamental issue that is present in videogames. I think combat tends to beat out environmental obstacles as the primary conflict type (broadly) since environments generally don't have agency.

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #161 on: October 21, 2021, 01:22:05 PM »
No they weren't. They were never popular with the vast majority of Russians.

They where the least unpopular which matters in this case.

Nope. The Peasant's Party were far more popular. The Bolsheviks were just better organised and more ruthless.

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #162 on: October 21, 2021, 05:10:47 PM »
Problem is, you are not allowed to fully discuss what happened during the Bolshevik Revolution.

The Soviet Union was guilty of the Holodomor, the slaughter of 6-10 MILLION Ukrainian Christians, this happening during the World War 2 Era.

Question: Why then did we support the Soviet Union while fighting Nazi Germany? Patton wanted to let the two fight, we'd finish off the winner. That would have averted a lot of suffering later on- the only reason those wonderful communist Soviets didn't immediately overrun post-WW2 Europe was because of the threat of American nuclear weapons. They were NEVER our friends, they helped Hitler when he overran my mother's homeland of The Netherlands, and Poland was going to lose out no matter which side won. 
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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #163 on: October 21, 2021, 07:20:23 PM »
Why then did we support the Soviet Union while fighting Nazi Germany? Patton wanted to let the two fight, we'd finish off the winner. That would have averted a lot of suffering later on- the only reason those wonderful communist Soviets didn't immediately overrun post-WW2 Europe was because of the threat of American nuclear weapons.

A: Because the germans had already conquered france and where bombing england. You can rightfully shit on the Soviet Union, but 3 of my great granfathers died in that war just defending their families. The SU had the manpower and the people disposable enough to deal a ton of damage to the Germans.

The germans planned genocide of slavic peoples as well. They just planned to do it with mass starvation instead of camps.

Right or wrong, I owe my existence and the existence of hundreds of people that I know from support from the USA during WWII.

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Re: Are we seeing the end of combat?
« Reply #164 on: October 21, 2021, 08:00:29 PM »
Greetings!

Yeah, the Soviet Union did lots of *Heavy Lifting* to defeat Nazi Germany during World War II. The Soviets weren't always the *best* of friends, or being very nice, trusting, or even very cooperative. However, the Soviets did suffer the burden--and achieved the glory--of fighting 60-70% of the entire armed forces of the Third Reich. The Russian's turning of the tide in the East and rolling back the Nazi armies, and ruthlessly crushing them at every turn is deserving of everyone's deep respect and gratitude. The Soviets--and the Slavic peoples everywhere over there--suffered an unimaginable hell fighting against the Nazis, and lost a horrendous 25 to 50 million people, civilians and military--to achieve that monumental victory. The Russians often literally fought with shovels, pick-axes, teeth and fists to grind down and slaughter the Nazis. After 1941, the Soviet Union typically faced off against 60% of the Luftwaffe, and 65% to 75% of the Wehrmacht on a constant basis. Considering the fact that in the West, the Western Allies were thus only dealing with fighting one fourth--or 25%--of the German Army on any battlefield, and we had the difficulties and challenges enough with that reality.

Make no mistake, had the Third Reich been able to move even an additional 15-25% of their forces fighting the Russians in the East and transferred them to Western Europe, fucking everything may have ended very differently. Certainly, American, British, and Allied casualties in the West would have been FAR HIGHER. Over all, the Germans were superior warriors, and managed to maintain a kill-ratio of 4 to 1 or more against any Western Allied Army. The German's kill ratio was, of course, even higher throughout the war against the Russians. Western casualties would thus have been horrifically higher under such circumstances. So, the Russians also helped the West by literally bleeding and suffering and dying--so that we didn't. That is also an undeniable fact.

I fucking hate Communism, and Stalin, and the Soviet Government were also a bunch of selfish, evil, cruel bastards and monsters--but at the time, they were also allied with us against the Nazis, and fighting to defeat the Third Reich. Aside from the Communist, Soviet Government, the Russian People suffered, and died, and heroically fought to defeat the Nazis, culminating with their horrific siege and victory over Berlin, and raising the Soviet Red Banner over the Reichstag in 1945.

American and British aid to the Soviet Union was meaningful, significant, and at different times and in different ways, of critical importance to helping the Russians resist the Nazis, and eventually counterattack against them, and crush them. Thousands of American and British sailors and naval crews died in the icy waters of the North Atlantic throughout the war, fighting against the German Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe, attempting to get supply convoys to Soviet Murmansk and Archangel. Food, Oil, Medicine, Ammunition, Guns, Tanks, Artillery, Radios, Train Locomotives, Aircraft, Clothing, and TRUCKS. Train Locomotives and trucks were critical for supplying the Red Army with MOBILITY, as well as radios. Yes, the Russians had some of their own, and they never had enough radios to go around for everyone, but the majority of the radios they did possess came from America and Britain. All them Russian Tank Armies and Guards Infantry Armies don't really move anywhere without having TRUCKS and RADIOS. The Russian industry heroically produced mountains of weapons and gear for the Russian armies--famously, their Tanks, Artillery, and Aircraft, but they didn't somehow produce many trucks or radios. The American-built TRAINS also provided the Russians with mass-mobility of supplies and troops over the Russian interior. That's of critical importance when you have only a few weeks or a few days at most to respond to yet another Blitzkrieg offensive by 200,000 Nazis and a bunch of Panzers. If you don't get your own troops, artillery, an tanks into position in time, well, you're fucked, an the Nazis win. And lots of Russian resources are lost, and hundreds of thousands of Russian civilians die or are marched off as slaves in the Third Reich. That was the reality of the modern battlefield during World War II.

In the end, it is a blessing and an honour that we were allies together during World War II. Together, we defeated the Third Reich.

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