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Are The Old (non-D&D) RPG "Reboots" Doing Well?

Started by RPGPundit, May 27, 2017, 12:27:22 AM

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In the last couple of years there have been a number of RPGs, mainly from the '90s, that have been undergoing their own revivals. This includes things like Savage Worlds RIFTS and Aces & Eights Reloaded, among others.  

How are any of these doing? I know some of them had huge kickstarters that did well, but is this going mainly out of nostalgia, or are they actually getting a lot of play?
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I have been playing the 20th Anniversary WoD games in the years they have been released. They're quite popular among younger players too, as the physical presentation is impressive. Chaosium's RuneQuest and Cubicle 7s Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying will always get attention from the groups I am involved with, and Space:1889 is something of a recent discovery that people really like.
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Quote from: RPGPundit;964582In the last couple of years there have been a number of RPGs, mainly from the '90s, that have been undergoing their own revivals. This includes things like Savage Worlds RIFTS and Aces & Eights Reloaded, among others.  

How are any of these doing? I know some of them had huge kickstarters that did well, but is this going mainly out of nostalgia, or are they actually getting a lot of play?

Savage Rifts has come to dominate conversation on the Savage Worlds Facebook group so much that it's almost the assumed baseline game now.

That is to say, it sure seems like people are playing it.
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Quote from: Tommy Brownell;964588Savage Rifts has come to dominate conversation on the Savage Worlds Facebook group so much that it's almost the assumed baseline game now.

That is to say, it sure seems like people are playing it.

I know I am.  I have a (House ruled) Cyber-Knight, a friend is playing a Grackletooth Merc soldier and his girlfriend is playing a 'half' elf Ley Line Walker.  We're having a lot of silly in character fun.
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TBH outside the small number of people who post/frequent the various media sites associated with RPGs I don't see a lot of these games being played outside the con circuit. The flavour of the  month, whether it's the latest Kickstarter or a new release from a traditional source, is what I see being played at cons besides the usual round of Cthulhu, DnD and Pathfinder. There's huge numbers of gamers who never go to cons and only play in their home group of 4 or 5 people and run 80's or 90's games with little effort to vary from whatever their standard fodder is, beit Fantasy or Space or whatever.

I can see a new resurgence of WHFRP coming down the pike with C7's acquisition of the license but I really doubt if that will get to all the people who've been running 1e since they were in school as they don't even look at the RPG media to know that a new edition is on the horizon..

Aglondir

What about 7th Sea's reboot? Doesn't seem to get much attention. I'm wondering if the success of the kickstarter was due to folks wanting all of the 1E books.

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Quote from: Aglondir;964607What about 7th Sea's reboot? Doesn't seem to get much attention. I'm wondering if the success of the kickstarter was due to folks wanting all of the 1E books.
They made a physically impressive new book, and the supplements and support seem impressive. For me though, just not that keen on fantasy pirates.
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It's hard to say. Urban Shadows does well in my neck of the woods because the creator of the game lives here. My group is playing Palladium again because many of us played the hell out of those games 20 years ago, and we don't mind the warts in that system. D&D5E is everywhere, because it's a solid system people can easily digest (and a very recognized name). Pathfinder continues to be played.

But ask a local game shop what's being played, and most of them will not really know. Their stores are filled with Magic players, or Warhammer enthusiasts. With .pdf sales being very strong now, pirating being easier, and people direct ordering games to their homes, getting a pulse on what games are doing well is tough.
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Quote from: Christopher Brady;964593I know I am.  I have a (House ruled) Cyber-Knight, a friend is playing a Grackletooth Merc soldier and his girlfriend is playing a 'half' elf Ley Line Walker.  We're having a lot of silly in character fun.

Savage Rifts does sound tempting...

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Glad to hear some people are liking Space:1889. I always loved it.
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DavetheLost

I know that a number of people are playing T&T with the new deluxe edition. Many more are pleased as punch that the 5th edition is finally available in pdf.

Metamorphosis Alpha is seeing a resurgance in play. I think this is best explained by the flood of new product for the 1st edition. None of the other editions seemed to gain traction. Ironic for a 40 year old game to be flourishing in its first edition, not a re-boot.

Brand55

Quote from: S'mon;964632Savage Rifts does sound tempting...
It's fun. Unbalanced and broken as all hell, but fun. Just avoid the really busted builds like the Mystic Dragon Squad and things are pretty smooth, at least compared to the original game.

Larsdangly

Quote from: DavetheLost;965070I know that a number of people are playing T&T with the new deluxe edition. Many more are pleased as punch that the 5th edition is finally available in pdf.

Metamorphosis Alpha is seeing a resurgance in play. I think this is best explained by the flood of new product for the 1st edition. None of the other editions seemed to gain traction. Ironic for a 40 year old game to be flourishing in its first edition, not a re-boot.

What can you say about the new T&T deluxe edition? I have a pretty nice set of 5E stuff (for those not into T&T, 5E is pretty much the standard 'old school' edition), but I'm curious to know whether there is a reason to trade up to the new one.

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Talents get +3 instead of a D6.
Experience is spent per characteristic per 7.5.
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That is all I remember for now. I am sticking with 5e...

DavetheLost

Also about half the book is a Trollworld gazetteer. Everything you ever wanted to know about Trollworld and then some.
Expanded Peters-McAlistair charts for playing monsters, and descriptions of same.

DT&T has a Kickstarter on the near horizon to reprint it the first run has sold out. There are mumblings of a possible format change, but nothing certain.

I'll be honest and say that especially with 5e now available in pdf from DriveThru it probably isn't worth upgrading unless you can get dT&T at a good price. It is  a nice book, but not that much nicer a game than 5e.