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Title: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: mudbanks on May 13, 2022, 01:54:32 AM
Has anyone used these? I really like the artwork. My only two gripes are that the scaling of large creatures (eg ogres) seem smaller than expected, and that the plastic isn't cut to fit the figures. Other than that, they seem like the best option for someone who wants miniatures by the bulk.

(https://d15chbti7ht62o.cloudfront.net/assets/015/163/485/8effb61e3ac4660bf0a25cd6f9f511d7_h264_high.jpg?2017)

http://arcknight.squarespace.com/
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: dbm on May 13, 2022, 06:32:12 AM
I bought some of these for using with Savage Worlds Last Parsec as they have sets with the 'official' aliens etc. I've attached  a pic comparing them to Star Wars minis and a Reaper Bones mini.

They are ok; the art is the same both sides, so they only have a 'front' image.

If you want fantasy standees then I would say that GeekTankGames (https://geektankgames.com/collections/all-products) has the edge - I got a load of their stuff in a Kickstarter and it is a higher quality product with both front and back art. The later sets have a more 'cartoon' art style, but the earlier ones are more conventional and work well alongside minis, too.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 06:52:37 AM
What I use for NPCs is heroforge.com Since my players use that to design their characters for me to print, I've started using the photo booth feature to do a full body front ,and a full body back, and print to cardstock. It's cheap, and super customizable. The drawback is you cant do many non humanoids.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: mudbanks on May 13, 2022, 10:22:58 AM
Thanks for the recommendations! Yeah GTG isn't really my cup of tea. Their designs come from Paper Forge Minis and Trash Mob Minis if I'm not mistaken. Some are not bad, but the majority are too cartoonish for me (especially Trash Mob).

Using Heroforge is a great idea for producing paper minis. I might try that for my humanoid PCs and NPCs, thanks!
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: mudbanks on May 13, 2022, 10:22:58 AM
Thanks for the recommendations! Yeah GTG isn't really my cup of tea. Their designs come from Paper Forge Minis and Trash Mob Minis if I'm not mistaken. Some are not bad, but the majority are too cartoonish for me (especially Trash Mob).

Using Heroforge is a great idea for producing paper minis. I might try that for my humanoid PCs and NPCs, thanks!

Use this template in your favorite photo editor.

Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 10:29:49 AM
Another option is to find minis on thingiverse.com open the stl files in Blender, and export images to use.

If you are unfamiliar with either, thingiverse is a site for free 3d models, Blender is a free, powerful 3d editing software.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: GeekyBugle on May 13, 2022, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 10:29:49 AM
Another option is to find minis on thingiverse.com open the stl files in Blender, and export images to use.

If you are unfamiliar with either, thingiverse is a site for free 3d models, Blender is a free, powerful 3d editing software.

Now that's an idea I hadn't thought about!

How would you go about having a front and back images?
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: GeekyBugle on May 13, 2022, 04:53:43 PM
What I use is plain cardboard and these: https://printableheroes.com/ (https://printableheroes.com/)

You could combine them with Shrinky Dink: https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Creativo-paquete-10-hojas-cristal-transparentes/dp/B0103B04RO?th=1 (https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Creativo-paquete-10-hojas-cristal-transparentes/dp/B0103B04RO?th=1)
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 07:05:30 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 13, 2022, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 10:29:49 AM
Another option is to find minis on thingiverse.com open the stl files in Blender, and export images to use.

If you are unfamiliar with either, thingiverse is a site for free 3d models, Blender is a free, powerful 3d editing software.

Now that's an idea I hadn't thought about!

How would you go about having a front and back images?


You would have to render images of the front and back. I've only used some basic Blender functions to kit bash some STL miniatures so I am far from an expert. I've not worked with color in Blender yet, but I'm sure it can be done.

Here are simple instructions to export to .png format.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6UrNz6Pvz0

You may want to check the tutorial for setting up the camera as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pggu1asGdVc

as far as getting front and back, it is a 3D application. You just need to rotate the model you imported to get a front and back view, render them as separate images with transparency, import into the template I attached earlier, scale to fit, rotate one image 180degrees and you should be good to go.

When I figure out how to get a color version output to png, I'll post my findings.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: GeekyBugle on May 13, 2022, 07:35:46 PM
Quote from: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 07:05:30 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 13, 2022, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 10:29:49 AM
Another option is to find minis on thingiverse.com open the stl files in Blender, and export images to use.

If you are unfamiliar with either, thingiverse is a site for free 3d models, Blender is a free, powerful 3d editing software.

Now that's an idea I hadn't thought about!

How would you go about having a front and back images?


You would have to render images of the front and back. I've only used some basic Blender functions to kit bash some STL miniatures so I am far from an expert. I've not worked with color in Blender yet, but I'm sure it can be done.

Here are simple instructions to export to .png format.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6UrNz6Pvz0

You may want to check the tutorial for setting up the camera as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pggu1asGdVc

as far as getting front and back, it is a 3D application. You just need to rotate the model you imported to get a front and back view, render them as separate images with transparency, import into the template I attached earlier, scale to fit, rotate one image 180degrees and you should be good to go.

When I figure out how to get a color version output to png, I'll post my findings.

Thanks! As for the color, I would use either Gimp or Krita for that. Import the .png and color fill an area (fill similar colors) in a different (Fuck me, how do you say capa?)
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: Shawn Driscoll on May 13, 2022, 08:00:57 PM
Quote from: mudbanks on May 13, 2022, 01:54:32 AM
Has anyone used these? I really like the artwork. My only two gripes are that the scaling of large creatures (eg ogres) seem smaller than expected, and that the plastic isn't cut to fit the figures. Other than that, they seem like the best option for someone who wants miniatures by the bulk.
I've never used them. They look better though than using the paper ones with white backgrounds.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: mudbanks on May 14, 2022, 08:11:22 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 13, 2022, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 10:29:49 AM
Another option is to find minis on thingiverse.com open the stl files in Blender, and export images to use.

If you are unfamiliar with either, thingiverse is a site for free 3d models, Blender is a free, powerful 3d editing software.

Now that's an idea I hadn't thought about!

How would you go about having a front and back images?

An annoying problem I ran into while playing around with Heroforge is that there is no shortcut to rotate the model exactly 180 degrees on the x- and y-axis. That means it will be quite difficult to get an exact matching front-and-back shot of the model. I'm quite perfectionist in that regard, so it triggers me :P

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll on May 13, 2022, 08:00:57 PM
I've never used them. They look better though than using the paper ones with white backgrounds.

I've got a good trick for the paper ones with white backgrounds. If you outline them with a permanent black marker, then cut them out as much as possible, they actually look pretty good on the table. Best if they're printed on gloss paper too (or sprayed with gloss sealant).
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: Godsmonkey on May 14, 2022, 10:36:44 AM
Quote from: mudbanks on May 14, 2022, 08:11:22 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 13, 2022, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 10:29:49 AM
Another option is to find minis on thingiverse.com open the stl files in Blender, and export images to use.

If you are unfamiliar with either, thingiverse is a site for free 3d models, Blender is a free, powerful 3d editing software.

Now that's an idea I hadn't thought about!

How would you go about having a front and back images?

An annoying problem I ran into while playing around with Heroforge is that there is no shortcut to rotate the model exactly 180 degrees on the x- and y-axis. That means it will be quite difficult to get an exact matching front-and-back shot of the model. I'm quite perfectionist in that regard, so it triggers me :P

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll on May 13, 2022, 08:00:57 PM
I've never used them. They look better though than using the paper ones with white backgrounds.

I've got a good trick for the paper ones with white backgrounds. If you outline them with a permanent black marker, then cut them out as much as possible, they actually look pretty good on the table. Best if they're printed on gloss paper too (or sprayed with gloss sealant).

True, getting it to line up exactly is a pain, and if you're doing the outline and cutout trick you mention, it's even more important to line them up.

I suspect heroforge would not be interested in adding that feature as it could potentially reduce a revenue stream since they are mainly in the mini printing business. Maybe as part of their premium membership they might be interested.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: GeekyBugle on May 14, 2022, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: mudbanks on May 14, 2022, 08:11:22 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 13, 2022, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: Godsmonkey on May 13, 2022, 10:29:49 AM
Another option is to find minis on thingiverse.com open the stl files in Blender, and export images to use.

If you are unfamiliar with either, thingiverse is a site for free 3d models, Blender is a free, powerful 3d editing software.

Now that's an idea I hadn't thought about!

How would you go about having a front and back images?

An annoying problem I ran into while playing around with Heroforge is that there is no shortcut to rotate the model exactly 180 degrees on the x- and y-axis. That means it will be quite difficult to get an exact matching front-and-back shot of the model. I'm quite perfectionist in that regard, so it triggers me :P

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll on May 13, 2022, 08:00:57 PM
I've never used them. They look better though than using the paper ones with white backgrounds.

I've got a good trick for the paper ones with white backgrounds. If you outline them with a permanent black marker, then cut them out as much as possible, they actually look pretty good on the table. Best if they're printed on gloss paper too (or sprayed with gloss sealant).

Providing you're printing them yourself, I've got a better trick:

Open the image in your favourite image processor software. Photoshop, Gimp, Krita, etc

Create a new layer

Copy the image to the new layer and fill it with black (only the copy on the new layer)

Color select that now black image

Hit grow and give it as many pixels as you want

Now go to fill and fill the selection with black.

Move this layer below the original one.

Now create a new transparent layer above the black figure

Change to the original image layer

Select the white background and cut it (if it's a png if not you need to copy to a transparent layer before being able to do so.)

Now copy and paste that image in the layer below

while still selected fill that with white. Any holes you see that were created by cutting out the white have to be filled by hand.

Once the white is finished you can proceed to export your image, now it has a thick black outline.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: mudbanks on May 14, 2022, 10:25:03 PM
That's a pretty good idea, thanks! I'll try that with Heroforge stuff.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: Spinachcat on May 15, 2022, 12:29:23 AM
Those GTG minis looks cool. Cartoonish, but cool.

I like how the front/back are different images. That's semi-important to me.

I've always loved paper minis for conventions where I had to fly out for the event because less luggage = goodness.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: mudbanks on June 05, 2022, 07:44:17 AM
I just learned that Arcknight launched a new Kickstarter not too long ago. It's an upgrade to their 5e Starter Set.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arcknight/hardbound-support-5e-starter-set-15/

Hyped!
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: Omega on June 14, 2022, 07:56:40 AM
Late to this. But flat standees have been around a good while. You just need a printer able to print to transparent plastic. Many a year ago I was playtester for a PNP game called Zaibatsu and many of the builds printed to transparents and folded. Gets a nice effect too.

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/aKqIZ08LtOY_lfs7yJJyng__imagepage/img/batec6kpjix_UUwo0j3jpaJZByo=/fit-in/900x600/filters:no_upscale():strip_icc()/pic939711.jpg)
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: GeekyBugle on June 14, 2022, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: Omega on June 14, 2022, 07:56:40 AM
Late to this. But flat standees have been around a good while. You just need a printer able to print to transparent plastic. Many a year ago I was playtester for a PNP game called Zaibatsu and many of the builds printed to transparents and folded. Gets a nice effect too.

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/aKqIZ08LtOY_lfs7yJJyng__imagepage/img/batec6kpjix_UUwo0j3jpaJZByo=/fit-in/900x600/filters:no_upscale():strip_icc()/pic939711.jpg)

What are your thoughts on zaibatsu? I own it but have yet to print and test it, would greatly appreciate your input.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: Omega on June 14, 2022, 06:28:19 PM
It is a pretty solid little game. The gameplay flows along well enough. They did a great job on the visuals. Though I prefer the original BW version. Its a bit more convoluted to assemble but depending on the sorts of games you like. It may appeal. Personal tastes are ever a factor.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: GeekyBugle on June 15, 2022, 11:07:15 AM
Quote from: Omega on June 14, 2022, 06:28:19 PM
It is a pretty solid little game. The gameplay flows along well enough. They did a great job on the visuals. Though I prefer the original BW version. Its a bit more convoluted to assemble but depending on the sorts of games you like. It may appeal. Personal tastes are ever a factor.

Thanks, I love the visuals.

Yeah, personal tastes might make a difference, but now I'm encouraged to spend the money/time to play it.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: Omega on June 15, 2022, 01:45:58 PM
Since its a PNP game its pretty inexpensive to just print to paper or sticker paper and do a test run before committing to a more complex build of it.
Title: Re: Arcknight Flat Plastic Miniatures
Post by: GeekyBugle on June 15, 2022, 05:30:47 PM
Quote from: Omega on June 15, 2022, 01:45:58 PM
Since its a PNP game its pretty inexpensive to just print to paper or sticker paper and do a test run before committing to a more complex build of it.

Yeah, but the time is still there. Thanks again, I'll print/build it and test it with my boy.