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Anyone Else Here Run a Long-Term non-Fantasy Western Campaign?

Started by RPGPundit, May 31, 2017, 03:25:40 AM

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Omega

#30
June 08, 2017, 08:31:38 AM
Right. "Fictional locale" is not "Alternate history" unless the fictional town is set in some sort of alternate history.

S'mon

#31
June 08, 2017, 09:18:55 AM
I played and then GM'd an online historical* Western game that ran about 6 months, back in the mid '90s. Great stuff.

*The original GM had the Mexican railroad hub further north than it should have been for 1871. But it certainly wasn't a fantasy game.

crkrueger

#32
June 08, 2017, 03:18:58 PM
Quote from: Ulairi;966844At least we do in Rocklin.

Hell, in Sacramento (Natomas) we do too. :D
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S'mon

#33
June 08, 2017, 07:30:36 PM
Quote from: jan paparazzi;966218To me alternative history is when something is obviously different than history as we know it. In this game Hitler won the second world war. That kind of thing. When is a game officially a campaign? I don't know really. One quest could take 3 or even 4 sessions in my experience. So I would say 5 sessions or longer? Longer than a month if you play weekly?

I don't think I'd refer to anything I ran with sessions in single figures as a campaign. I had an 18 session campaign, a 12 session mini-campaign,  a 13 session mini-campaign, and various adventures less than that. 6 sessions is an adventure not campaign almost always, I'd think.

flyingmice

#34
June 08, 2017, 08:32:46 PM
Quote from: Omega;967136Right. "Fictional locale" is not "Alternate history" unless the fictional town is set in some sort of alternate history.

History turns into alt.History the moment a player character's boots hit the ground.
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#35
June 08, 2017, 08:34:37 PM
I somehow forgot the two mid length campaigns I did with Coyote Trail! D'oh! Love that game!
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Dumarest

#36
June 08, 2017, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: flyingmice;967269I somehow forgot the two mid length campaigns I did with Coyote Trail! D'oh! Love that game!

I was looking at the Coyote Trail Big Bundle at the PIG web site...any insights into what makes the game so good? The only Western  RPG I have now is Boot Hill (both the 2nd and 3rd editions), and I used to own Aces & Eights but found it to be too complicated and too rules-heavy for me or anyone I play with to want to run it. Does Coyote Trail do anything Boot Hill doesn't do, or do anything better than Boot Hill?

flyingmice

#37
June 09, 2017, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;967292I was looking at the Coyote Trail Big Bundle at the PIG web site...any insights into what makes the game so good? The only Western  RPG I have now is Boot Hill (both the 2nd and 3rd editions), and I used to own Aces & Eights but found it to be too complicated and too rules-heavy for me or anyone I play with to want to run it. Does Coyote Trail do anything Boot Hill doesn't do, or do anything better than Boot Hill?

I have never read or played Boot Hill, so I couldn't compare, unfortunately.
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3rik

#38
June 09, 2017, 06:20:36 PM
Quote from: flyingmice;967269I somehow forgot the two mid length campaigns I did with Coyote Trail! D'oh! Love that game!

Did you run this strictly RAW?
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Dumarest

#39
June 09, 2017, 06:20:37 PM
Quote from: flyingmice;967413I have never read or played Boot Hill, so I couldn't compare, unfortunately.

Fair enough. Care to point me in the direction of  any reviews of your World War I pilot RPG?

flyingmice

#40
June 10, 2017, 12:41:18 AM
Quote from: 3rik;967419Did you run this strictly RAW?

I don't even run my own games RAW....
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#41
June 10, 2017, 12:54:23 AM
Quote from: Dumarest;967420Fair enough. Care to point me in the direction of  any reviews of your World War I pilot RPG?

Here's Pundit's review, and here is one from a customer. However if you have a system you like, you can probably choose something to roll for gunnery and something to roll for piloting and be happy with the air combat system.
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Black Vulmea

#42
June 10, 2017, 12:37:26 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;966390. . . here is why I put that definition in the first post . . .
Okay, here we go.

Quote from: RPGPundit;966390. . . to make it clear that while it didn't have to be a short campaign . . .
Wait for it.

Quote from: RPGPundit;966390. . . I wasn't talking about one-shots . . .
Wait for it.

Quote from: RPGPundit;966390. . . and I wasn't talking about something that you'd thought about running and then didn't . . .
Wait for it.

Quote from: RPGPundit;966390. . .  and I wasn't talking about a game that petered out immediately; but . . .
Nearly there now.

Quote from: RPGPundit;966390. . . otherwise I didn't really care how many sessions you'd played.
And thank you for confirming that you pulled that number straight out of your brown eye.

Quote from: RPGPundit;966390I'm not sure what satanic motive you think I had . . .
I don't think your motives are satanic. You're just a shallow thinker who tries so friggin' hard to give yourself airs of authority. It's part of being an egoist blowhard.

And you could never be Satan. You'd be the guy Satan sends to the bodega for a pack of cigarettes and a lottery ticket.

Quote from: RPGPundit;966390It's a non-fantasy fictional setting. Not history, but unless you have wizards or sexy vampires or such in it, then it's not fantasy either.  It's just a made up quasi-real make-believe-town like you see in westerns written by people who didn't want to do the research.
It takes remarkable flexibility to fellate yourself like that, doesn't it?

No matter how much research your put in, historical fiction blends the real and the imaginative, and fictional locations in the real world in no way preclude bringing in a shitload of history.

I like to get the history 'right', but as clash already noted, it's fiction the moment the adventurers get turned loose in the setting, with all that that entails, and I'm not there to impress the players that I can read a fucking book but to run a fun game.
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flyingmice

#43
June 10, 2017, 01:13:59 PM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;967550I like to get the history 'right'[/url], but as clash already noted, it's fiction the moment the adventurers get turned loose in the setting, with all that that entails, and I'm not there to impress the players that I can read a fucking book but to run a fun game.

I read the links, and I agree entirely with this! Not the fight with Pundit - that's your affair - but how you deal with history in a game.
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Prairie Dragon

#44
June 15, 2017, 03:38:19 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;967077My latest blog entry is somewhat relevant to this thread.

Excellent read.  The transition from frontier to state happened rather quickly, no doubt about it.  I credit the railroad and the increase in number of local newspapers.
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