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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2020, 08:13:35 AM »
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Labyrinth Lord and Basic Fantasy are my go-to's for fantasy

Traveller and Cepheus Engine for hard (ish) science fiction

Cyberpunk 2020 and Cybergeneration for cyberpunk (duh)

Mekton II and Mekton Zeta for giant robots/anime

d6 Star Wars for Star Wars

Everything else AFAIK that has come out in the last 10 years has slowly slid into social justice politics disguised as gaming.

Although Cyberpunk 2020 is untouched by wokeness - of course - Talsorian's new "Media Ambassador" is as woke as it gets (he is rather annoying on Twitter, not through his personal account, but Talsorian's). So, as he is also envolved in the games, I bet Cyberpunk Red will turn out pretty much a SJW wet dream (and The Witcher most likely will get the same treatment).

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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2020, 08:17:11 AM »
I was browsing through the mentioned thread and found no reference to a few companies like Free League, Fantasy Flight (although they, apparently, are no longer making RPGs they still have a lot of products out there) and Cubicle 7. Have these wokened too? Or have they stayed neutral?

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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2020, 08:17:16 AM »
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Although Cyberpunk 2020 is untouched by wokeness - of course - Talsorian's new "Media Ambassador" is as woke as it gets (he is rather annoying on Twitter, not through his personal account, but Talsorian's). So, as he is also envolved in the games, I bet Cyberpunk Red will turn out pretty much a SJW wet dream (and The Witcher most likely will get the same treatment).

   I even noticed some of it slipping into some of their Facebook promotions for Castle Falkenstein. They took the 'Day in the Life' section from Comme Il Faut and reposted it in snippets, but flipped the gender of the narrator and dropped in a transgender character.

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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2020, 09:18:44 AM »
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Although Cyberpunk 2020 is untouched by wokeness - of course - Talsorian's new "Media Ambassador" is as woke as it gets (he is rather annoying on Twitter, not through his personal account, but Talsorian's). So, as he is also envolved in the games, I bet Cyberpunk Red will turn out pretty much a SJW wet dream (and The Witcher most likely will get the same treatment).

you really haven't been paying attention to the politics of R Talsorian games.

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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2020, 09:18:54 AM »
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Although Cyberpunk 2020 is untouched by wokeness - of course - Talsorian's new "Media Ambassador" is as woke as it gets (he is rather annoying on Twitter, not through his personal account, but Talsorian's). So, as he is also envolved in the games, I bet Cyberpunk Red will turn out pretty much a SJW wet dream (and The Witcher most likely will get the same treatment).

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I even noticed some of it slipping into some of their Facebook promotions for Castle Falkenstein. They took the 'Day in the Life' section from Comme Il Faut and reposted it in snippets, but flipped the gender of the narrator and dropped in a transgender character.

Disappointing! This, after Maximum Mike told the SJWs to pound sand when they complained about something or other in the Cyberpunk 2077 video game.

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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2020, 09:22:37 AM »
You mean in the past? I have no problem with being progressive, that's fine with me, the hypocrisy, ignorance, arrogance and the cult-like attitude of the woke is what gets on my nerves.

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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2020, 09:24:21 AM »
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Disappointing! This, after Maximum Mike told the SJWs to pound sand when they complained about something or other in the Cyberpunk 2077 video game.

Exactly! I loved that reply and then, all of a sudden, things turned really sour... Probably has nothing to do with the Pondsmiths, but still, it's their company...

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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2020, 09:27:55 AM »
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I even noticed some of it slipping into some of their Facebook promotions for Castle Falkenstein. They took the 'Day in the Life' section from Comme Il Faut and reposted it in snippets, but flipped the gender of the narrator and dropped in a transgender character.

Hey, I didn't notice that. A transgender in the Victorian age? I mean, it's not quite out Victorian age, but still...

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2020, 09:39:20 AM »
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Disappointing! This, after Maximum Mike told the SJWs to pound sand when they complained about something or other in the Cyberpunk 2077 video game.


The complaint was about the use of a transsexual model (in setting) in a sexualised manner to advertise some in setting drink or other.  Which was a ridiculous complaint imho.

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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2020, 09:42:41 AM »
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The complaint was about the use of a transsexual model (in setting) in a sexualised manner to advertise some in setting drink or other.  Which was a ridiculous complaint imho.

There was another thing about race, can't recall exactly what, but Mike Pondsmith wrote something about refusing to be lectured on how to act about racism.

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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2020, 09:49:02 AM »
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Hey, I didn't notice that. A transgender in the Victorian age? I mean, it's not quite out Victorian age, but still...

I may be misinterpreting things, but here's the original: https://www.facebook.com/RTalsorianGames/photos/a.618896421455736/3424021624276521/?type=3&theater

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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2020, 10:02:09 AM »
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I may be misinterpreting things, but here's the original: https://www.facebook.com/RTalsorianGames/photos/a.618896421455736/3424021624276521/?type=3&theater

could be the Sweet Polly Oliver trope in action, with a female character pretending to be male during the day, or she could be transgender as we mean now, it wasn't unknown (obviously no surgery available, but still)

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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2020, 05:28:14 PM »
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I was browsing through the mentioned thread and found no reference to a few companies like Free League, Fantasy Flight (although they, apparently, are no longer making RPGs they still have a lot of products out there) and Cubicle 7. Have these wokened too? Or have they stayed neutral?


Cubicle 7 is going down the woke route. All you have to do is look at WFRP 4th ed and you'll see it. You can also go looking for the cover of the 2nd ed of the One Ring rpg they showed for hints as well. But since they are British it's pretty much a given since that country is pretty far left to start.

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« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2020, 02:06:09 AM »
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I've had a few rather bad - and consecutive - experiences with RPGs by "big" companies (at least as big as they can be) going fully woke. All my fault, because during about five years I didn't pay any attention to what was happening in the role playing world and then came back and didn't do the required research. I don't plan on giving any more money to faux-activist hypocrites who give in to the woke mob, but I'm also a sucker for very detailed settings, published campaigns and high production values, so keeping focused only on individual game designers doesn't quite cut it for me. I suppose this is the only place where I can ask this and get an answer, so... any suggestions? I'm not looking for any particular game or genre, just a nod on the right direction(s) if any...


It's hard to say. Many of the good ol' standby game creators and their companies are now taking a knee to Black Lives Matter, siding with Marxism. I would look for companies that side with GamerGate. There are some video game companies that do. So I'm guessing there are some TTRPG companies that are doing the same.

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« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2020, 02:46:27 AM »
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It's hard to say. Many of the good ol' standby game creators and their companies are now taking a knee to Black Lives Matter, siding with Marxism. I would look for companies that side with GamerGate. There are some video game companies that do. So I'm guessing there are some TTRPG companies that are doing the same.

Only Autarch (ACKS) comes to mind. Though I can't imagine Troll Lord Games actually Bending the Knee.