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RPGPundit:

--- Quote from: Manic Modron;1137440 ---Poster A: I say, those bounders at Acme Game Co are uo to some parliamentary schenanigans!

Poster B: Zounds, I don't care for that one bit!

Poster C: Pray, good fellow, would you care to expound on these notions?

Pundit: What devilry confounds your efforts to remain on task?  Though I am loathe to do so, I have a mind to escort you to the exit by summary force!
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Except that this is not what I'm saying. AS LONG AS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CONTEXT OF WHAT/HOW/WHY THE SJWS ARE DOING SOMETHING IN THE HOBBY, THAT'S FINE. There's no problem with that, the problem is when someone else shows up and says "Yeah, and let me tell you about something else I hate about Democrats that has nothing to do with RPGs" or "they're doing this other non-gaming related thing in schools" or "Yes but President Orange Man is doing this terribly bad thing that has nothing to do with the D&D hobby so how can you say you're not a racist?"

Jfrog:

--- Quote from: RPGPundit;1137687 ---Except that this is not what I'm saying. AS LONG AS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CONTEXT OF WHAT/HOW/WHY THE SJWS ARE DOING SOMETHING IN THE HOBBY, THAT'S FINE. There's no problem with that, the problem is when someone else shows up and says "Yeah, and let me tell you about something else I hate about Democrats that has nothing to do with RPGs" or "they're doing this other non-gaming related thing in schools" or "Yes but President Orange Man is doing this terribly bad thing that has nothing to do with the D&D hobby so how can you say you're not a racist?"
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That makes much more sense. Thank you.

Mishihari:
I suppose if if someone posts something both stupid and political, you can just say "Wow, you're an idiot!" and refute them without going into politics yourself at all

GriswaldTerrastone:
Folks, I just turned 55 about half an hour ago. So I've been around the RPG scene for a long time.

Pundit, I get what you're saying here, and as a tired middle-aged white guy I like the idea. In the basic forum(s? I'm new here), just keep to basic game discussions, like "can water dumped on a fire elemental put it out?"

The problem is that it's getting harder and harder to NOT bring politics into recent gaming products, because that's what they are filled with. I've seen examples where it hits you over the head again and again. The thing you absolutely MUST understand is that once the "politically correct" get ahold of something it becomes politics first, whatever second. This is what happened to Marvel Comics, Star Wars, etc. It is happening to Dungeons and Dragons products, which is why people download earlier game modules and rules books from the Internet. It's gotten so bad you can hardly say "well I'll just leave the rubbish out," how can you when that's what it is mostly becoming?

The second problem is that it's a perpetual motion machine. It can never be enough: the old "Star Trek" gets bashed by the left for sexism, racism, etc. when back in the day it was a very liberal show. Early episodes of "Sesame Street" come with warnings. It's never enough. If I want to try and sell a game based on my "Ayundell" world then if anything is politically incorrect- gasp, female characters are not as strong as male characters and they are usually not sent into danger?! Orcs are usually evil? That world has the equivalent of evil Drow?- I'll end up in the crosshairs for sure.

It's not a matter of "you play your way I'll play mine," it won't stop until EVERYONE is forced to comply, EVERYTHING not played in a dim cabin somewhere must comply.

I saw the remake of the Dunegon Master's Guide (1977). I noticed how it only showed part of the efreeti, the girl he was holding was gone. That was no accident.

Characters are becoming a grey mush, because of equalism. Evil druids? Since when? If one wanted to bend the rules one could in one's game, but then I guess you couldn't carry the character over to another game following the rules more closely.

I'm sad it's come to this in something like Dungeons and Dragons. It just makes me- tired. And sad. All I want to do is bash bad guys, make friends with good guys and dragons, and get some loot.

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