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Author Topic: Perkins states "There isnt a new edition"  (Read 129 times)

Omega

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Perkins states "There isnt a new edition"
« on: March 27, 2024, 09:08:48 PM »
Fuck sake Perkins is turning out to be worse than Crawford.

https://www.gamesradar.com/dandd-dev-says-there-isnt-a-new-edition-of-the-game-because-players-cant-get-enough-of-this-one/

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"Speaking frankly, [and] this is my own personal opinion, 12 classes is actually a lot," Perkins says. "If I were redesigning, if I could go back to 2012 to when we were talking about fifth edition for the first time, I would probably put a strong case forward that we could actually do with less classes in the core game. You know, keep the choices simple. Because when you're asking somebody to choose between a Sorcerer and a Wizard, to the untrained eye, it's not clear what the difference is until you start to drill down and you realize where they get their power from and how their spell-casting works. When you look at it superficially, they seem pretty much the same. And you know, what is the difference between a Barbarian and a Fighter? A Barbarian could almost be a subclass [for a] Fighter if we were designing this game from scratch."

Has he even read the classes? Apparently not?

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"That said, it's OK if some things go away because they still exist in the game. This is still Fifth Edition. So if you want to play something and there is an option that has changed and you don't want to play the changed version, that's OK.

So it is "Still 5th ed" but "Not really."
Fuck sake can wotc tell the truth ever?

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So in things like the Unearthed Arcana [playtests], we will sometimes put things in the articles that we know probably won't fly, that the community will push back on because they're not ready for it or they don't think it's right for the game that they want to play. We do that because we have to know, and that's the only way we can really know.

So they test stuff they know will fail to know if it fails... W-T-F????

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Re: Perkins states "There isnt a new edition"
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2024, 09:20:56 PM »
Greetings!

Yeah, Omega, Perkins is sadly a clown as well. I remember him from way back, when he was a guy just involved with Dungeon Magazine. Like so many, years ago, they seemed sane, normal, and even talented, skilled, and cool.

Fast forward, especially since 2016, and we can see that so many of them are jello-filled morons, and absolutely pathetic. It is all that Woke Kool Aid, man. It rots their brain, and just opens them up to being filled with Woke Jello.

Semper Fidelis,

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Re: Perkins states "There isnt a new edition"
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2024, 09:51:19 PM »
Quote from: Perkins
"Speaking frankly, [and] this is my own personal opinion, 12 classes is actually a lot," Perkins says. "If I were redesigning, if I could go back to 2012 to when we were talking about fifth edition for the first time, I would probably put a strong case forward that we could actually do with less classes in the core game. You know, keep the choices simple. Because when you're asking somebody to choose between a Sorcerer and a Wizard, to the untrained eye, it's not clear what the difference is until you start to drill down and you realize where they get their power from and how their spell-casting works. When you look at it superficially, they seem pretty much the same. And you know, what is the difference between a Barbarian and a Fighter? A Barbarian could almost be a subclass [for a] Fighter if we were designing this game from scratch."

I don't want to defend anyone at WOTC, but I actually agree with Perkins on this. If I were designing the game, I'd take it down to 4 base classes (Fighter, Cleric, Mage, Rogue) and make everything else a variant on one of those. Either through subclasses or by feat selection. Then again, I bailed out of the 5E ship years ago. 

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By the end of the third edition, we were seeing a trend, a downturn [for] every product… And that's a signal to us… [but] the trend that we've seen in the last 10 years is not what we've seen with Third [Edition], not what we've seen with Fourth. The game is doing better and better and better. So we're not at a point in the life in Fifth Edition where we feel like, OK, the fans are telling us this is not the game for them. They're not saying that. They're saying 'we love Fifth Edition.'

So the books about gay proms, coffee shop dramas, and rainbow citadels are flying off the shelves? What about the re-done properties, like Dragonlance, Spelljammer, and Planescape? How are those selling?




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Re: Perkins states "There isnt a new edition"
« Reply #3 on: Today at 02:58:21 AM »
It's hilarious that he think that the community pushes back against UA content because we're just not ready for it or think it doesn't fit this specific game.  I have never encountered a DM that disallowed UA content for either of those reasons.  DM's disallow UA content because it's poorly thought out and imbalanced.  Take the silvery barbs spell for example.  It imposes disadvantage on an opponent of your choice and gives to an ally of your choice advantage on their next attack, save or ability check.  It's castable as a reaction.  This would be quite good for a 3rd level spell.  It's a 1st level spell.  People don't disallow this because they just ready for that.  They disallow it because it's way too good.  The flipside of this are all the UA options that are just bad but no one wants to take those.
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Re: Perkins states "There isnt a new edition"
« Reply #4 on: Today at 04:09:51 AM »
Perkins is a doofus but I agree with him on number of classes; 1e AD&D got it about right IMO with classes & subclasses.