Quote from: Godfather Punk on March 01, 2021, 01:39:48 PM
You can always borrow my uncensored dvd's, which I keep next to my hotpants-WonderWoman and Are You  Being Served sets

So, back on topic,  I remember the Cowbell guy from a kerfuffle a few months ago, but where is Luke Crane on the scale of SJW-to-Shitlord? The KS comments make it seem as if he was on purpose creating the controversy.

On the scale of SJW-to-Shitlord, he is classic Swine. One of the original Forgies, he's all about producing only what he wants to produce, keeping full control of the entire process, and scolding you if you want him to do things your way rather than his way. This is the guy who went and got instruction in layout before he finished Burning Wheel so he didn't have to argue aesthetics with a layout designer. This is also the guy who pissed some people off by running a Kickstarter entirely in-character as a grumpy wizard.

Jesus, i never heard this adam coebel story until i clicked on this out of curiosity. I avoid a lot of internet rpg stuff, just hanging out on a few sites here and there so i never caught this. I didn't hear about Zak S. until i saw it on another forum.

it's like bill maher said, leftist cancel culture has reached the level of summary execution. it's as bad as rightist cancel culture, and the right invented it, ask the dixie chicks, colin kapernick, the hollywood 10, etc.

I'd like to take the extreme left and extreme right and fire them all into the sun...

Quote from: Samsquantch on April 01, 2021, 02:56:35 AM
I've gotten a lot of quality rpg products via Kickstarter so it's not all bad. For instance, I've gotten many, many, 3d files for dungeons, buildings, terrain, and minis via Kickstarter. I've also received great sets with tons of extras from Goodman Games for DCC, MCC, and Lankhmar boxed sets, plus great books from Kobold Press and other publishers that didn't contain an ounce of woke. It's just been the last couple of years that it's gotten so damn flakey with wokeness. There have been a lot of rip offs too with no products being delivered but I've only had maybe 4 or 5 out of dozens and dozens of successful ones.

I have too been satisfied with quite a few kickstarters.  However one of the downsides is in many cases, if you don't back a project there is little chance of ever obtaining the product.   While this doesn't often affect written works which are often later distributed as PDFs or POD, it does affect material products... board games, miniatures, playing aids, electronics etc.   With investment backing you can produce regular runs to meet sales.  The only way I've seen this done is to start new kick starters for new runs of old products.

Had Adam Kibble been a normal guy playing with a normal group
instead of being a woke asshole playing with a woke group
his relatively minor mishap was quite forgivable.
Instead I think many view it as karma.

Always fun to see the woke devour their own.
Nothing of value lost.

As for Kickstarter, they have become a woke-asshat platform which makes its dominance in the crowd-funding market very unfortunate.

Kyle, there's no need to cancel kickstarter as very few creators are using the platform as anything other than a pre-order & marketing service. It's been a couple of years since I've seen a project get funded that didn't describe itself as "mostly done". And when you look at their offerings, you quite often seen the game is effectively done, except for perhaps final art and layout. As game stores and thus game distributors have mostly gone the way of the dodo, there isn't a pre-order option for publishers. Kickstarter has taken that role.

And in the creators' defense, I have backed about 30 projects and 2 failed to produce.  The risk-reward factor is effectively meaningless and I have gotten to learn about new projects I probably never would have seen because the RPG ROI is so pathetic, there's very little marketing money (if any) for wide promotion.

Quote from: crkrueger on April 06, 2021, 11:42:22 AM
Live by the Mob, die by the Mob.

Yep.

New guy here to forum. I was reading the article, got to the 'non-consensual sexual encounter he ran' part, and literally thought "Woah, so he was like a con-stalker? Using his influence to exploit... "
...then read, 'without player permission,' and was like, "Oh okay... in a game, so not like in a physical way. Still creepy and shouldn't have happened in a live stream with strangers playing and watching, but uh... "

Yeah the world became weird to me. Also the Burning Wheels guy was woke? Didn't know that.