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Actual Fucking Monsters

Started by The Witch-King of Tsámra, May 18, 2019, 02:02:32 AM

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Snowman0147

Quote from: Spinachcat;1088926I just learned Fate of Cthulhu by Evil Hat had a SENSITIVITY CONSULTANT for their book. :eek: LOL. What fucknuts.

As a man who has only known comfort for all my life my only response for this is this.  What pussified shit is this shit?

JRT

Quote from: Spinachcat;1088926Somebody poke Grim!

I just learned Fate of Cthulhu by Evil Hat had a SENSITIVITY CONSULTANT for their book. :eek: LOL. What fucknuts.

I gotta know Grim, was Actual Fucking Monsters approved by a Sensitivity Consultant before you published it?

I gotta know, is it safe to read??? :D

As far as I know, they didn't have him work on the main book.  He was contributing an adventure if they made the $100,000 stretch goal (which wasn't made).

His credentials are here: https://jamesmendezhodes.com/rpg
Just some background on myself

http://www.clashofechoes.com/jrt-interview/

kythri

Quote from: JRT;1089012His credentials are here: https://jamesmendezhodes.com/rpg

From the link:

Quote from: Mr. SensitivityI've been working in tabletop games professionally since 2014. I draw on my personal and academic background to guide games and media toward new cultural frontiers through writing, development, editing, and sensitivity reading.

I also run games professionally, mostly ones I haven't written myself, mostly for children whom I later make fun of on the Internet.

Seems super sensitive to me.

BoxCrayonTales

Quote from: Spinachcat;1088858Sounds like a darker version of Clive Barker's Nightbreed, or going for Kathryn Bigelow's Near Dark feel or perhaps Rob Zombie's Devil's Rejects.

I'd probably go the Devil's Rejects route where the hunters are just as bad as the monsters and live in a twisted symbiosis.

Might be fun as a one-shot.

The "he who fights monsters" trope gets boring after a while. It makes more sense to roll randomly to determine a given hunter's moral compass. That would be more believable than declaring all hunters are automatically scumbags.

Also, after that fiasco with Beast: The Primordial being pedophile apologia incognito, I am significantly less charitable towards works that depict the monster hunters as another kind of monster. Especially if the literal monsters are serial killers. Unless the monster hunters are also serial killers, they're still not as bad as the literal monsters. If the monster hunters are serial killers, then they're just literal monsters pretending otherwise.

I don't see a reason why AFM couldn't support playing as a monster hunter who went off the deep end and became more or less a literal monster. I'm pretty sure plenty of slasher movie villains were punishing teenagers for having premarital sex or something. Killer Condom is the epitome of that.

I'm not sure how you would actually play an evil sentient condom that wants to castrate dudes for having premarital or homosexual sex, but it sounds like it would be bloody hilarious. Literally.

Quote from: kythri;1089015From the link:



Seems super sensitive to me.
He's also writing yet another article about how orcs are tied up into the history of colonialism and racism. He's personally experienced casual racism in his life, so I'm curious to see his takeaway from the subject. Most of the articles I can find on this subject are either vapid or too clinical to make for engaging reads.

I don't believe that orcs, as used by any particular author, are a parable for racism. I do believe that the whole concept of an intelligent race whose sole purpose is to be killed and looted by the "heroes" stems from humanity's innate nature as tribalist bloodthirsty savages. Right now it is politically incorrect to express the desire to kill and loot people who look and think differently from you, much less act on it. Since this represses our inherent instincts to bathe in the blood of screaming victims, we sublimate our urges by inventing elf-games where we kill orcs. While we think we want to kill the orcs, the truth is that were the orcs all along.

TL;DR Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! Milk for the Khorne flakes!

kythri

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1089045He's personally experienced casual racism in his life, so I'm curious to see his takeaway from the subject.

I'm a white boy from Oregon.

When I was in Yonkers, NY about 20 years ago, a group of gentlmen of African? descent called me a cracker.

What do I win for that?

Mr. Sensitivity sounds like a giant wanker.

nope

Quote from: Spinachcat;1088926I just learned Fate of Cthulhu by Evil Hat had a SENSITIVITY CONSULTANT for their book. :eek: LOL. What fucknuts.
Having read this type of fucking sensitivity drivel spewed repeatedly in the Fate Core Horror Toolkit, this is hardly surprising.

kythri

Why aren't they publishing a sensitivity handbook for their players to peruse?

nope

Quote from: kythri;1089052Why aren't they publishing a sensitivity handbook for their players to peruse?

I don't know about a sensitivity handbook, but last I heard they had an "Accessibility Toolkit"/handbook planned for future release.

What would it contain? I struggle to imagine. Perhaps just a reprint of Fate Core in braille and on audiobook...?

kythri

There better be build plans for a wheel-chair ramp in there.

BoxCrayonTales

Can we go back to the part where I play as a sentient condom with teeth intent on castrating men for having premarital sex?

nope

#25
Quote from: kythri;1089056There better be build plans for a wheel-chair ramp in there.

Seems likely. I believe it's a Fate World called "Deep Dark Blue" about submarines, art featuring a wheelchair-bound crew member.

If memory serves, a poster on the G+ forums mentioned that it made no sense at all and that anyone bound to a wheelchair would be functionally useless and an obstacle on such a vessel (including the oversized/cartoonish/fantasy-kind featured in Deep Dark Blue). He was banned shortly thereafter, with the sort of 'inclusivity' and 'sensitivity' spiel you'd expect from the moderation (which in this case, I believe was Fred Hicks himself).

Again, if memory serves, I believe I recall the same poster mentioning elsewhere (perhaps on his private G+ feed, I can't remember) how unjust he felt the ban and the corresponding verbal beatdown were because he, himself was disabled. He became excluded simply by acknowledging reality, despite his own person being part of the demographic Evil Hat is trying to suck up to.

Edit: Thinking back he may actually have served in the Navy as well which would have made sense as far as his frustration level, though this part I'm not at all sure on.

On the other hand, I've got a serious case of the brain rot so at least some of this is likely to be inaccurate or possibly outright false.

In any case, this post was pretty clearly entirely off-topic (I don't own "Actual Fucking Monsters" and have no real plans to pick it up at this time) so feel no need to respond to this; either way, I won't push this topic further.

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1089057Can we go back to the part where I play as a sentient condom with teeth intent on castrating men for having premarital sex?

I don't know, that campaign doesn't sound like it would have legs.
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AaronThePedantic

Quote from: Spinachcat;1088858Sounds like a darker version of Clive Barker's Nightbreed, or going for Kathryn Bigelow's Near Dark feel or perhaps Rob Zombie's Devil's Rejects.

I'd probably go the Devil's Rejects route where the hunters are just as bad as the monsters and live in a twisted symbiosis.

Might be fun as a one-shot.

Grim listed Night breed as an influence and in the GM section suggests that you run the game where basically all the humans are awful as well in the shadows

Delete_me

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1089057Can we go back to the part where I play as a sentient condom with teeth intent on castrating men for having premarital sex?

Nope. We've started on this board's favorite pastime of building up strawmen and knocking them down. Going to have to sit back and wait it out now.

...although the monster in question sounds like a... more horrifying version of Sausage Party.

moonsweeper

Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser;1089060I don't know, that campaign doesn't sound like it would have legs.

It would probably be OK for a one-shot though...
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