ACKS is now a forbidden topic in TBP

S'mon · February 13, 2020, 02:01:15 AM

Quote from: Rithuan;1121961I think the lesson here is: If you have a game, never go to Hobbs & Friends, even if they invite you in good faith.
I mean, how much damage has this podcast done to the ACKS brand?

I certainly won't be listening to the buggers!

nielspeterdejong · November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM

Quote from: Larsdangly on July 06, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
This all sounds stupid on all fronts, and like a typical TBP shit storm.

But I am surprised to hear ACKS was written by someone who worked for Milo whats-his-face. What the hell is that all about? No wonder a slice of the roleplaying game community thinks the OSR is full of alt-right fuck wits. It only takes one or two prominent people like that to catch your attention.

ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

RandyB · November 22, 2022, 10:34:18 AM

Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly on July 06, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
This all sounds stupid on all fronts, and like a typical TBP shit storm.

But I am surprised to hear ACKS was written by someone who worked for Milo whats-his-face. What the hell is that all about? No wonder a slice of the roleplaying game community thinks the OSR is full of alt-right fuck wits. It only takes one or two prominent people like that to catch your attention.

ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

Yes. That is ACKS. And ACKS is an excellent game. Better than OSE, in my opinion.

weirdguy564 · November 22, 2022, 10:57:45 AM

Did we need 39 pages to know that RPG.Net is a woke cesspool of "left good/right bad" thinking?

Then again, I'm sure we all have stories and want to share. Like me getting a temp ban because I joked offhandedly and negatively about my own religion in a conversation about the Cleric class.

I left when I banned again for defending this evil writer named RPG Pundit who wrote a game I like.

Eric Diaz · November 22, 2022, 11:57:52 AM

Quote from: RandyB on November 22, 2022, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly on July 06, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
This all sounds stupid on all fronts, and like a typical TBP shit storm.

But I am surprised to hear ACKS was written by someone who worked for Milo whats-his-face. What the hell is that all about? No wonder a slice of the roleplaying game community thinks the OSR is full of alt-right fuck wits. It only takes one or two prominent people like that to catch your attention.

ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

Yes. That is ACKS. And ACKS is an excellent game. Better than OSE, in my opinion.

I agree. OSE is a a B/X STRICT clone - even the typos are kept. ACKS is streamlined/expanded/improved B/X. But then again, so is LotFP, BFRPG, my Dark Fantasy Basic, etc.

I think I will call this "the B/X paradox", because B/X is my favorite game but I like every improvement on it more than the original (I do NOT consider AD&D or 3.X do be an improvement over B/X, BTW, so I'm probably still missing some parts of my definition...).

EDIT: The B/X paradox:
https://methodsetmadness.blogspot.com/2022/11/the-bx-paradox-also-ad-paradox-minimum.html

weirdguy564 · November 22, 2022, 12:27:55 PM

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I agree. OSE is a a B/X STRICT clone - even the typos are kept. ACKS is streamlined/expanded/improved B/X. But then again, so is LotFP, BFRPG, my Dark Fantasy Basic, etc.

I think I will call this "the B/X paradox", because B/X is my favorite game but I like every improvement on it more than the original (I do NOT consider AD&D or 3.X do be an improvement over B/X, BTW, so I'm probably still missing some parts of my definition...).

That's exactly how it seems to be. Basic D&D is the baseline rulebook for so many OSR games I can't keep up. I just picked Basic Fantasy as a game to try based on the insanely low cost of $5 for a book.

They're all just house rules for old Basic D&D. I dislike OSE because it keeps the game as it was. I'm not a huge fan of D&D overall, so the modified ones like Shadow of the Demon Prince or Dungeons and Delvers are more my style

nielspeterdejong · November 22, 2022, 03:35:55 PM

Quote from: Eric Diaz on November 22, 2022, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: RandyB on November 22, 2022, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly on July 06, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
This all sounds stupid on all fronts, and like a typical TBP shit storm.

But I am surprised to hear ACKS was written by someone who worked for Milo whats-his-face. What the hell is that all about? No wonder a slice of the roleplaying game community thinks the OSR is full of alt-right fuck wits. It only takes one or two prominent people like that to catch your attention.

ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

Yes. That is ACKS. And ACKS is an excellent game. Better than OSE, in my opinion.

I agree. OSE is a a B/X STRICT clone - even the typos are kept. ACKS is streamlined/expanded/improved B/X. But then again, so is LotFP, BFRPG, my Dark Fantasy Basic, etc.

I think I will call this "the B/X paradox", because B/X is my favorite game but I like every improvement on it more than the original (I do NOT consider AD&D or 3.X do be an improvement over B/X, BTW, so I'm probably still missing some parts of my definition...).

EDIT: The B/X paradox:
https://methodsetmadness.blogspot.com/2022/11/the-bx-paradox-also-ad-paradox-minimum.html

I've only ever played D&D 3.5 edition, Pathfinder 1E, D&D 4th edition, and D&D 5th edition. How does it compare to these series? Is the way it plays comparible as in that it also uses D20's?

And what are OSE and B/X ?

THE_Leopold · November 22, 2022, 03:45:02 PM

Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Eric Diaz on November 22, 2022, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: RandyB on November 22, 2022, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly on July 06, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
This all sounds stupid on all fronts, and like a typical TBP shit storm.

But I am surprised to hear ACKS was written by someone who worked for Milo whats-his-face. What the hell is that all about? No wonder a slice of the roleplaying game community thinks the OSR is full of alt-right fuck wits. It only takes one or two prominent people like that to catch your attention.

ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

Yes. That is ACKS. And ACKS is an excellent game. Better than OSE, in my opinion.

I agree. OSE is a a B/X STRICT clone - even the typos are kept. ACKS is streamlined/expanded/improved B/X. But then again, so is LotFP, BFRPG, my Dark Fantasy Basic, etc.

I think I will call this "the B/X paradox", because B/X is my favorite game but I like every improvement on it more than the original (I do NOT consider AD&D or 3.X do be an improvement over B/X, BTW, so I'm probably still missing some parts of my definition...).

EDIT: The B/X paradox:
https://methodsetmadness.blogspot.com/2022/11/the-bx-paradox-also-ad-paradox-minimum.html

I've only ever played D&D 3.5 edition, Pathfinder 1E, D&D 4th edition, and D&D 5th edition. How does it compare to these series? Is the way it plays comparible as in that it also uses D20's?

And what are OSE and B/X ?

why in the name of god would you resurrect a 3yr old dead thread about drama that happened almost 5 years ago? Are you just trying to inflate your post count?

nielspeterdejong · November 22, 2022, 04:05:04 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on November 22, 2022, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Eric Diaz on November 22, 2022, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: RandyB on November 22, 2022, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly on July 06, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
This all sounds stupid on all fronts, and like a typical TBP shit storm.

But I am surprised to hear ACKS was written by someone who worked for Milo whats-his-face. What the hell is that all about? No wonder a slice of the roleplaying game community thinks the OSR is full of alt-right fuck wits. It only takes one or two prominent people like that to catch your attention.

ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

Yes. That is ACKS. And ACKS is an excellent game. Better than OSE, in my opinion.

I agree. OSE is a a B/X STRICT clone - even the typos are kept. ACKS is streamlined/expanded/improved B/X. But then again, so is LotFP, BFRPG, my Dark Fantasy Basic, etc.

I think I will call this "the B/X paradox", because B/X is my favorite game but I like every improvement on it more than the original (I do NOT consider AD&D or 3.X do be an improvement over B/X, BTW, so I'm probably still missing some parts of my definition...).

EDIT: The B/X paradox:
https://methodsetmadness.blogspot.com/2022/11/the-bx-paradox-also-ad-paradox-minimum.html

I've only ever played D&D 3.5 edition, Pathfinder 1E, D&D 4th edition, and D&D 5th edition. How does it compare to these series? Is the way it plays comparible as in that it also uses D20's?

And what are OSE and B/X ?

why in the name of god would you resurrect a 3yr old dead thread about drama that happened almost 5 years ago? Are you just trying to inflate your post count?

The thread was pretty recent at the top when I looked it up, which is how I got there. I am looking for a new system to play as D&D 5th edition is sadly going down the drain after all the woke ideologues have infiltraded the "creative" side, and the "fan"-base. Same with Pathfinder 2E. So I thought I'd ask around on a few posts that I saw make mention of other systems.

Jam The MF · November 22, 2022, 04:23:00 PM

Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 04:05:04 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on November 22, 2022, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Eric Diaz on November 22, 2022, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: RandyB on November 22, 2022, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly on July 06, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
This all sounds stupid on all fronts, and like a typical TBP shit storm.

But I am surprised to hear ACKS was written by someone who worked for Milo whats-his-face. What the hell is that all about? No wonder a slice of the roleplaying game community thinks the OSR is full of alt-right fuck wits. It only takes one or two prominent people like that to catch your attention.

ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

Yes. That is ACKS. And ACKS is an excellent game. Better than OSE, in my opinion.

I agree. OSE is a a B/X STRICT clone - even the typos are kept. ACKS is streamlined/expanded/improved B/X. But then again, so is LotFP, BFRPG, my Dark Fantasy Basic, etc.

I think I will call this "the B/X paradox", because B/X is my favorite game but I like every improvement on it more than the original (I do NOT consider AD&D or 3.X do be an improvement over B/X, BTW, so I'm probably still missing some parts of my definition...).

EDIT: The B/X paradox:
https://methodsetmadness.blogspot.com/2022/11/the-bx-paradox-also-ad-paradox-minimum.html

I've only ever played D&D 3.5 edition, Pathfinder 1E, D&D 4th edition, and D&D 5th edition. How does it compare to these series? Is the way it plays comparible as in that it also uses D20's?

And what are OSE and B/X ?

why in the name of god would you resurrect a 3yr old dead thread about drama that happened almost 5 years ago? Are you just trying to inflate your post count?

The thread was pretty recent at the top when I looked it up, which is how I got there. I am looking for a new system to play as D&D 5th edition is sadly going down the drain after all the woke ideologues have infiltraded the "creative" side, and the "fan"-base. Same with Pathfinder 2E. So I thought I'd ask around on a few posts that I saw make mention of other systems.

OSE Classic Fantasy, is a peek into what Non-AD&D, D&D was like; in the early heyday of D&D popularity. When TSR was rocking and rolling, and Gary Gygax was still at TSR.

nielspeterdejong · November 22, 2022, 04:35:12 PM

Quote from: RandyB on November 22, 2022, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly on July 06, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
This all sounds stupid on all fronts, and like a typical TBP shit storm.

But I am surprised to hear ACKS was written by someone who worked for Milo whats-his-face. What the hell is that all about? No wonder a slice of the roleplaying game community thinks the OSR is full of alt-right fuck wits. It only takes one or two prominent people like that to catch your attention.

ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

Yes. That is ACKS. And ACKS is an excellent game. Better than OSE, in my opinion.

How does it compare to savage worlds? I'm looking around, and so far most people recommended Savage Worlds to me.

Chris24601 · November 22, 2022, 04:50:02 PM

Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 04:35:12 PM
Quote from: RandyB on November 22, 2022, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly on July 06, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
This all sounds stupid on all fronts, and like a typical TBP shit storm.

But I am surprised to hear ACKS was written by someone who worked for Milo whats-his-face. What the hell is that all about? No wonder a slice of the roleplaying game community thinks the OSR is full of alt-right fuck wits. It only takes one or two prominent people like that to catch your attention.

ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

Yes. That is ACKS. And ACKS is an excellent game. Better than OSE, in my opinion.

How does it compare to savage worlds? I'm looking around, and so far most people recommended Savage Worlds to me.

Savage Worlds is way more of a toolkit and the math at its foundation not quite as simple* as it appears at the surface (a friend and I have been beating our head against it for quite some time); particularly compared to single die linear distributions.

*The math is based on the better of two dice, often of different sizes/types, that can individually explode if you roll the maximum result on them (which is also more likely the smaller the die type is (i.e. 25% chance with a d4 vs. 8.33% with a d12) and with margins of success based on increments of 4.

Stephen Tannhauser · November 22, 2022, 06:15:03 PM

Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 04:05:04 PMThe thread was pretty recent at the top when I looked it up, which is how I got there. I am looking for a new system to play as D&D 5th edition is sadly going down the drain after all the woke ideologues have infiltraded the "creative" side, and the "fan"-base. Same with Pathfinder 2E. So I thought I'd ask around on a few posts that I saw make mention of other systems.

Fair enough; for what it's worth, generally if you have questions about a particular system, nobody has any problem with you starting a fresh thread to ask, and that's usually better than necro'ing an old thread.

Eric Diaz · November 22, 2022, 08:21:29 PM

Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Eric Diaz on November 22, 2022, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: RandyB on November 22, 2022, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly on July 06, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
This all sounds stupid on all fronts, and like a typical TBP shit storm.

But I am surprised to hear ACKS was written by someone who worked for Milo whats-his-face. What the hell is that all about? No wonder a slice of the roleplaying game community thinks the OSR is full of alt-right fuck wits. It only takes one or two prominent people like that to catch your attention.

ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

Yes. That is ACKS. And ACKS is an excellent game. Better than OSE, in my opinion.

I agree. OSE is a a B/X STRICT clone - even the typos are kept. ACKS is streamlined/expanded/improved B/X. But then again, so is LotFP, BFRPG, my Dark Fantasy Basic, etc.

I think I will call this "the B/X paradox", because B/X is my favorite game but I like every improvement on it more than the original (I do NOT consider AD&D or 3.X do be an improvement over B/X, BTW, so I'm probably still missing some parts of my definition...).

EDIT: The B/X paradox:
https://methodsetmadness.blogspot.com/2022/11/the-bx-paradox-also-ad-paradox-minimum.html

I've only ever played D&D 3.5 edition, Pathfinder 1E, D&D 4th edition, and D&D 5th edition. How does it compare to these series? Is the way it plays comparible as in that it also uses D20's?

And what are OSE and B/X ?

B/X is classic D&D (Moldvay's Basic D&D and Cook's Expert D&D). OSE is an exact copy with better organization.

ACKS, Dark Fantasy Basic, BFRPG, etc., are streamlined versions of B/X rather than exact copies.

Aglondir · November 22, 2022, 09:46:21 PM

Quote from: nielspeterdejong on November 22, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
ACKS? Is that this roleplaying game? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/99123/adventurer-conqueror-king-system Is the game itself any good? I don't care if a person is "controversial", as long as they make a good game. Also, by the standards of many on the left, we are all controversial here merely for being nerds XD

ACKS is excellent.