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ACKS is now a forbidden topic in TBP

Started by ArrozConLeche, July 06, 2018, 03:16:54 PM

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Motorskills

#540
October 31, 2018, 01:37:19 AM
Quote from: GeekEclectic;1062421I looked at the thread. It starts off well enough, and if you weren't already familiar with the moderation there you might just think "ok, private property, kinda dumb but fair enough." But then you get into the list of citations . . . and I'm not going to go through all of them, but when I got to 5 - he mocks the disabled - I just knew what incident it was going to link to. It was that time he was mocking the intelligence of a reporter before he had any idea that the guy was disabled. I'm not going to say he did nothing wrong - the mockery was still crass - but he absolutely did not mock the guy's disability.

By pointing out something daft that he had said, correct? Some use of Shakespearean wit to put down someone whose intellectual rigour had been found wanting?
"Gosh it's so interesting (profoundly unsurprising) how men with all these opinions about women's differentiation between sexual misconduct, assault and rape reveal themselves to be utterly tone deaf and as a result, systemically part of the problem." - Minnie Driver, December 2017

" Using the phrase "virtue signalling" is \'I\'m a sociopath\' signalling ". J Wright, July 2018

Abraxus

#541
October 31, 2018, 07:35:25 AM
What gets me is how those in favor of the new rules have learned nothing. When anyone mentions that this might make people vote more in favor of Trump they outright dismiss the possibility of it even being remotely possible. Since targeting and making every Trump supporter an enemy will somehow mean that those voters will vote for a Democrat candidate. The left has as usual learnt nothing, keeps repeating the same mistakes. Come 2020 we will see yet another bunch of people post videos of themselves having meltdowns.

HappyDaze

#542
October 31, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
Quote from: sureshot;1062478What gets me is how those in favor of the new rules have learned nothing. When anyone mentions that this might make people vote more in favor of Trump they outright dismiss the possibility of it even being remotely possible. Since targeting and making every Trump supporter an enemy will somehow mean that those voters will vote for a Democrat candidate. The left has as usual learnt nothing, keeps repeating the same mistakes. Come 2020 we will see yet another bunch of people post videos of themselves having meltdowns.

I don't think they are trying to alter the vote here; what they are trying to do is thicken the walls of their bubble and make them opaque.

Imaginos

#543
October 31, 2018, 09:42:18 AM
It is just the online antifa.

HappyDaze

#544
October 31, 2018, 10:44:11 AM
Quote from: Imaginos;1062490It is just the online antifa.

That might be the case if they were to go out attacking other sites and their members in places they down own/control. If all Antifa did was bar their own doors so only their own type could mingle in their homes & businesses, they wouldn't be the problem they are today.

Imaginos

#545
October 31, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1062498That might be the case if they were to go out attacking other sites and their members in places they down own/control. If all Antifa did was bar their own doors so only their own type could mingle in their homes & businesses, they wouldn't be the problem they are today.

That's a good point.

Rhedyn

#546
October 31, 2018, 11:52:12 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1062498That might be the case if they were to go out attacking other sites and their members in places they down own/control. If all Antifa did was bar their own doors so only their own type could mingle in their homes & businesses, they wouldn't be the problem they are today.
What do you call the harassment campaigns then?

HappyDaze

#547
October 31, 2018, 11:54:58 AM
Quote from: Rhedyn;1062513What do you call the harassment campaigns then?

Where is it happening? Do I have to go onto their site (into their home) to see it? If so, then it means nothing to me because I'm not going there. It would be different for me if I was a writer/producer of games, but I'm not.

Rhedyn

#548
October 31, 2018, 01:05:01 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1062514Where is it happening? Do I have to go onto their site (into their home) to see it? If so, then it means nothing to me because I'm not going there. It would be different for me if I was a writer/producer of games, but I'm not.
They do organize phonecalls/writing/emailing publishers when they hate something a lot.

So yeah, you have to go there to see it unless you are the one being targeting or one of the publishers/thing that could hurt what they want hurt.

Toadmaster

#549
October 31, 2018, 03:03:05 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1062498That might be the case if they were to go out attacking other sites and their members in places they down own/control. If all Antifa did was bar their own doors so only their own type could mingle in their homes & businesses, they wouldn't be the problem they are today.

Agree more Flat earthers.


La la la la, I'm not listening.

Haffrung

#550
October 31, 2018, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: Mistwell;1062403That's an incredible amount of authoritarianism for an RPG message board.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1062479I don't think they are trying to alter the vote here; what they are trying to do is thicken the walls of their bubble and make them opaque.

It's classic cult dynamics. The hardcores go too far and moderates leave. Purity tests follow to root out any who aren't yet true believers. As more moderates are driven out, soon only the crazies are left. They get more and more zealous in their dogma. Eventually you wind up with a small number of truly fucked up cultists who have lost all touch with reality.
 

SavageSchemer

#551
October 31, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
Quote from: GeekEclectic;1062421I looked at the thread. It starts off well enough, and if you weren't already familiar with the moderation there you might just think "ok, private property, kinda dumb but fair enough." But then you get into the list of citations . . . and I'm not going to go through all of them, but when I got to 5 - he mocks the disabled - I just knew what incident it was going to link to. It was that time he was mocking the intelligence of a reporter before he had any idea that the guy was disabled. I'm not going to say he did nothing wrong - the mockery was still crass - but he absolutely did not mock the guy's disability.

I'm no Trump supporter. There is plenty to criticize about him, but I don't feel the need to blatantly lie about him. That goes both ways - I got onto my own mom's case about some of the unsubstantiated crap she posted about Hillary during the election season even though I don't like Hillary either. Anyway, back to my point . . . if they're willing to post something like that, something that's been so thoroughly debunked that they should be embarrassed of themselves for even linking to it, then what else on that list are they lying about and/or taking out of context?

I just don't trust them at all. I don't trust them to be fair. I don't trust them to be rational. I don't trust them to be honest.

Oh it gets much better (worse?). There are the predictable chorus of "I'm so happy the mods make me feel warm and cuddly and safe", but every so often you have a poster who throws in a supposed Trump quote that in no way whatsoever is something the man has actually said. Shit like, "you can't have reasonable discourse with someone who supports a president who tells his base that they should 'go out and rape transgender people to death'". Like, if you actually believe he or anyone else said that (Cameron Diaz once attributed something similar to G.W. Bush on actual fucking video) then you need to seriously be institutionalized. Pointing that out, of course, is grounds for instant-banning.
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fearsomepirate

#552
November 01, 2018, 12:39:39 PM
Add to that the kinds of test where the only way to prove you believe the right things is to hate the wrong people as much as I hate the wrong people.
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Altheus

#553
November 03, 2018, 05:34:20 AM
You would think that 1984 had never been written. Wrongthinkers are banned. People who deviate from the current set of beliefs are evil. I like to wind people up by reminding them that globalist used to be the bad guys for people on the left (...we have always been at war with eastasia).

I also believe that fascists desperately need to be beaten up and thrown into the canal (fine British tradition) but only when they start doing things, people can say and think anything they please. (Subject to pass and such).

Omega

#554
November 03, 2018, 05:56:57 AM
Quote from: Mistwell;1062450There is one minor benefit to this rules change. Now people who say things like, "I bet you're a Trump supporter" can also be banned for attempting to bait someone into breaking the rules. And that's not speculation - they mention that.

Since when? TBP has turned a blind eye before to attacking the latest designated enemy, BGG occasionally does it as well. Just substantially less frequently.
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