Quote from: S'mon;1144883Tenkar is definitely very thin skinned. Actual OSR content creators generally seem made of sterner stuff - Pundit and Venger, for instance.

I certainly hope we are.  I may bitch about a lot of stuff, but wouldn't try to get someone's creative effort removed because I disagreed with their personal views or was butt-hurt from name-calling.

VS

Quote from: trechriron;1144911Venger - I also don't want to see products with "Hail Cthulhu" taken down, but I would want to see a bumper sticker...

I shall try to accommodate you, hoss.

VS

In the age of single mothers bastard loses any semblance of insult.

Quote from: Razor 007;1144900I guess here on theRPGsite; any form of censorship, is viewed as being akin to releasing a loud fart during a church service?

Yeah, but even more so because drivethrough is pretty much a monopoly. If SJG didn't want to sell a third party product on Warehouse 23 for reasons, you'd hear some bitching about it but it wouldn't be terribly alarmist. Many companies have competing web stores.

But drivethrough is pretty much the main driver of RPG PDF sales. If it wasn't, SJG wouldn't have caved into selling GURPs products there and giving OBS a cut of sales when they already have their own store.

The message is, of course, woke bullshit but echoing the others here that getting it taken down was moronic.

Although I am surprised DTRPG did considering the line in question.

Quote from: Snark Knight;1145098The message is, of course, woke bullshit but echoing the others here that getting it taken down was moronic.

Although I am surprised DTRPG did considering the line in question.

Maybe because Tenkar is their #1 shill?

Quote from: moonsweeper;1144856$100 internet bucks says DTRPG jumped on this so hard for exactly ONE reason...They just set the precedent for removal of ANYTHING they might view as 'political'

...and they can point this out and say they did it to an SJW-oriented/leftist product, so they obviously are able be fair about it...

Calling this precedent would be difficult, because DTRPG has already done this. They've been doing it since at least 2014 when they took down a card game making fun of the GamerGate karens.

Not saying I agree with them taking down this one, I don't. But this is nothing new for them.

Quote from: VengerSatanis;1145099Maybe because Tenkar is their #1 shill?

I suspect we need to get rid of Tenkar before he gets rid of us.

Who the fuck is this Tenkar dude and why should I care? I know he writes some shitty blog I never read. What else does he do?

Quote from: capvideo;1145127Calling this precedent would be difficult, because DTRPG has already done this. They've been doing it since at least 2014 when they took down a card game making fun of the GamerGate karens.

Not saying I agree with them taking down this one, I don't. But this is nothing new for them.

Technically true...but the push was not as widespread as it is now.  With Tenkar's name on it, it will be more even more prevalent. It will be the example they use from here on out...because there is no 'taint' like with GamerGate.

Quote from: Morblot;1145131Who the fuck is this Tenkar dude and why should I care? I know he writes some shitty blog I never read. What else does he do?

Isn't Tenkar one of the owners of Frog God Games?

I don't know Tenkar anymore than you guys do, but did see some post where he complained with reason in the MeWe D&D group few weeks ago. I don't know if this is related, but someone stole one of his artworks and modded it without giving any credit in some publishing. I had ideas fucking stolen before so that's why I'm secretive about my core system and other creative thoughts as well. Maybe it's fallout from that.

I don't agree with Tenkar's complaint on this one, but in general I like Tenkar and I think he serves an important role for the indie RPG community in reporting news others won't report.

Quote from: Slipshot762;1145096In the age of single mothers bastard loses any semblance of insult.

And they make the best swords.

Quote from: FelixGamingX1;1145155I don't know Tenkar anymore than you guys do, but did see some post where he complained with reason in the MeWe D&D group few weeks ago. I don't know if this is related, but someone stole one of his artworks and modded it without giving any credit in some publishing. I had ideas fucking stolen before so that's why I'm secretive about my core system and other creative thoughts as well. Maybe it's fallout from that.

Ohhhh you want paranoia?

Here. Let me "help" you.

Many a year back I had a playtester steal one of my playtest race designs and sell art prints of it as his own creation. He still plays the victim painting me the one making false claim. joy.
Years before that theres a popular board game you may or may not have heard of. Supremacy. That was stolen during playtest and sold to a publisher. The original designer never saw a dime.
Over on BGG theres designers who tell people that is "ok for playtesters to steal a design because game designs arent protected.".

No. Im not making any of this up and there is so much more.

Problem is. You need playtesters to make sure your design isnt broke. You need eyes on your design in case something like the above or worse does happen.