Quote from: Melan;1104366This just in: calling a HR-style document a HR-style document (and the issues it might cause) gets you an infraction.



Then again, this is a forum which has just permaed some other guy who criticised the sacred thesis of Cultural Appropriation.

Hey, that's me! I did email the mod team to point out that calling my opinion (based on 12+ years of HR in a not-for-profit and not a corporation) "inept" is a personal attack, implying that corporations can't have anything to do with people a group attack, and that this heavy-handed ban is the exact lack of compassion and conversation that I feared.

I'm split 50-50 if it'll be radio silence or a permanent ban.

Quote from: MattyHelms;1104396Hey, that's me! I did email the mod team to point out that calling my opinion (based on 12+ years of HR in a not-for-profit and not a corporation) "inept" is a personal attack, implying that corporations can't have anything to do with people a group attack, and that this heavy-handed ban is the exact lack of compassion and conversation that I feared.

I'm split 50-50 if it'll be radio silence or a permanent ban.

You'll probably get your permanent ban for 'cross forum drama', since the RPGnet mods seem to spend more time on this forum than Pundit does.

Quote from: MattyHelms;1104396Hey, that's me! I did email the mod team to point out that calling my opinion (based on 12+ years of HR in a not-for-profit and not a corporation) "inept" is a personal attack, implying that corporations can't have anything to do with people a group attack, and that this heavy-handed ban is the exact lack of compassion and conversation that I feared.

   Also, a gaming group may be 'in no way comparable to a corporation,' but a gaming convention or Organized Play commission is a different story.

   At this point, I think they should just draft their Anticreed, publish it, and demand acquiescence as the price of posting on their fora.

Quote from: MattyHelms;1104396Hey, that's me! I did email the mod team to point out that calling my opinion (based on 12+ years of HR in a not-for-profit and not a corporation) "inept" is a personal attack, implying that corporations can't have anything to do with people a group attack, and that this heavy-handed ban is the exact lack of compassion and conversation that I feared.

I'm split 50-50 if it'll be radio silence or a permanent ban.

Here's the <reply> to a question as to why you were threadbanned. Note that the reply refers to something other than the reason you were threadbanned.

As I post this, I'm aware that it has the potential to be a bit of inter-board drama but I do think it's an important reminder that the people who think that there is any merit or value to the writings of a demented harlot are not the people with whom any sensible (ie, reasonably sound mind, gainfully employed, can grasp that gender was determined in the womb etc...) person should spend any time. It's also a reminder that these sorts of people are likely to gather at conventions and other forms of organised play so those of us with good gaming groups made up of friends should be extraordinarily grateful that this is the case.

I have stopped caring about rpg.net, to be honest. I question the mind (and the character) of anyone who witnesses this style of moderation and is okay with it.
Sometimes when I search for information on an RPG product I end up on one of their review pages and that's about it.

Quote from: Alexander Kalinowski;1104405I have stopped caring about rpg.net, to be honest. I question the mind (and the character) of anyone who witnesses this style of moderation and is okay with it.
Sometimes when I search for information on an RPG product I end up on one of their review pages and that's about it.

To be honest it's not even so much the mind or character of a person. Just the willingness to throw away every single micro-gram of self-respect and objectivity to be part of the cool SJW kids club. They rather bend over backwards and close their eyes rather than be kicked out of the SJW incluvisity club. Which kind of shows they don't have much in terms of a social life. One ex-close friend from high school kept making fun of my behind my back and kept trying to justify it. I walked away and never looked back. Year later we crossed paths again and he blamed me for walking away rather than find fault with his actions. The sad part is besides an echo chamber and validation nothing else is to be gained. If one is going to throw away both of the above at least be paid for it.

I think MattyHelms hit too close to the mark for their comfort.

Having some consideration for your players is good. If I knew one of my players was arachnophobic, I might accomodate them by not using spiders, or toning down descriptions and using Pogs with "Spider #1" on them, instead of miniatures.
But this checklist stuff strikes me as a way to codify a bunch of rules to make social interaction painless. And social interaction is not painless. It's full of awkward moments and miscommunications. A checklist isn't going to "solve" that.
And TBH, I wouldn't trust anyone in the Social Justice movement to not abuse such a checklist to engage in relational aggression.

Quote from: Scrivener of Doom;1104403Here's the <reply> to a question as to why you were threadbanned. Note that the reply refers to something other than the reason you were threadbanned.

Thanks for posting that; I never would have seen it otherwise.

New Thread: Everyone look at this great new knife for slicing onions! No more tears - guaranteed!
Me: Wow, I've seen people get cut pretty bad with knives. I hope that doesn't happen here.
Official Response: Saying a knife meant for slicing can cut someone is stupid! Leave the kitchen immediately!
3rd Party: What? He didn't violate any rules.
Official Response: Other people have done bad things. Saying a knife could cut like a knife may lead to bad things, so he deserves punishment. End of discussion.

As someone who firmly believes in compassion, communication, and compromise, I'm walking away from that place.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1104443But this checklist stuff strikes me as a way to codify a bunch of rules to make social interaction painless. And social interaction is not painless. It's full of awkward moments and miscommunications. A checklist isn't going to "solve" that.

Well said!

I LOVE that actual communication happens here!  Now, back to rolling dice and pretending to blow $#!+ up!

Quote from: MattyHelms;1104453Me: Wow, I've seen people get cut pretty bad with knives. I hope that doesn't happen here.

Concern trolling!

-50,000 points to Gryffindor!

Quote from: MattyHelms;1104463Now, back to rolling dice and pretending to blow $#!+ up!

Wait we are pretending to blow $#!+ up?


Oh fuck.

Quote from: Shasarak;1104535Wait we are pretending to blow $#!+ up?


Oh fuck.

...and with that, I have found my people.

High fives for Matty

Welcome Matty.

I don't object to the list so much that it encourages one of two things or both.

Lack of personal responsibility for taking the blame for joining the wrong game. If it's going to be fighting minions of Lolth and and given advance notice complaining that their are Spiders when the person is an Arachnophobe. With the DM and the rest of the table refusing to change the focus does not mean either or both are bad terrible people. One either drops out of the game or the table accommodates the player. Unlike TPB and other like minded SJW style forums the second happens more than the first.

Lack of maturity. I can understand not talking about physical or mental abuse as both are very traumatic and most DMs unless given advance notice to the players do not include either or both in a campaign. Getting triggered an offended when a fake imaginary book is burnt because the person is very passionate against that then getting equally offended and triggered by a polite but firm "grow a pair". Simply means to me that person maybe physically be an adult, mentally an entitled child. I'm passionate about books being a bookworm by nature. Getting offended and triggered by imaginary crimes not in a million years. I reserve doing that for actually book burnings.

I also feel like many of them live in an imaginary world. Sometimes depending on what is happening to oneself a person to borrow the phrase from Zombieland "time to nut up or shut up". To be fair if the DM in my above example just acts in a callous manner without regard to the person suffering from a fear of Spiders gets what they deserve if when told the person suffers a phobia they just brush it off. I'm not going to constantly walk on eggshells both as a player and DM because player XYZ easily gets triggered and offended either.

"Adulting is hard" as my sarcastic daughter says... apparently this applies to a lot of millennial gamers, and middle-aged seat-sniffing creepers, and their fantasy "edgy" danger-haired masters.