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Author Topic: A new exciting product has been release for the Cypher system  (Read 18443 times)

Gagarth

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« on: September 12, 2019, 07:42:30 AM »
I can't wait to unleash this on my players.  

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2019, 07:44:42 AM »
https://www.montecookgames.com/consent-in-gaming/

Tackle Mature Content with Confidence!

From fending off an attack by bloodthirsty pirates to delving into dank caverns, roleplaying games allow you to explore and experience things you probably don’t want to face in real life—or to approach topics from the perspective of characters who may be very different than your actual self. This shared experience is intended to be fun for all involved, but RPGs can put characters in life-or-death crises, intense emotional situations, or traumatic environments. Whether it’s body horror in a scary game, violence against children or animals in a fantasy world, flirty, romantic, or sexual relationships in any setting—or numerous other challenging scenarios—the line between fun and awkward, difficult, or downright unpleasant can be difficult to identify, and varies dramatically from player to player.

Mature or controversial elements can and should be a part of many RPGs. But how do you know what topics to include or leave out of your games? How do you include potentially difficult elements while ensuring that nobody’s game night is ruined? Consent in Gaming gives you the strategies you need to make sure everyone at the table has a great experience, even when the game goes in a challenging direction.

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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2019, 07:49:41 AM »
It's free, so I'm downloading it now.

Re the cover pic, well they could have gone with a Harvey Weinstein lookalike neckbeard GM describing his rape fantasies to a gaggle of horrified rainbow-haired female/minority/differently-abled & LGBTQI players...

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2019, 07:56:49 AM »
Reading it now...

They shouldn't threaten to kick that person
out of the group if they decide not to play
this game.


Yes, but if a player doesn't want to do X and everyone else does want to do X, that player should gracefully step out of the room. They could leave just for a scene, or for a whole campaign. The game should not be dependent on the wishes of the most easily triggered player.

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2019, 07:59:15 AM »
Quote from: S'mon;1103597
Reading it now...

They shouldn't threaten to kick that person
out of the group if they decide not to play
this game.


Yes, but if a player doesn't want to do X and everyone else does want to do X, that player should gracefully step out of the room. They could leave just for a scene, or for a whole campaign. The game should not be dependent on the wishes of the most easily triggered player.

Not if goldfish are involved.  Then the game should be stopped and the traumatised player should be taken to the nearest mental health professional.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2019, 08:08:06 AM »
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Not if goldfish are involved.  Then the game should be stopped and the traumatised player should be taken to the nearest mental health professional.

:D Yeah I saw that.

It basically starts off ok, then goes off the deep end around page 5.

Page 10:
Your game group needs to make you feel safe. This is a step beyond just being comfortable to play
the game. This is a safe space free of hassle, harassment, negativity, judgment...
-Your Best Game Ever


Uh, no. I'll stick with the Five Geek Social Fallacies. The D&D table is for playing D&D, not a mutual support group.

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2019, 08:14:40 AM »
If we use this product then that nicely solves the problem of the Gnomish Kings with one simple use of the X card.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2019, 08:19:12 AM »
I'm wondering if the first 4 pages were by Sean K Reynolds and 5-13 by Shanna Germain. There is a pretty strong change of tone. Going by the initial 4 pages I was expecting a reasonable discussion of including mature content from both player & GM perspective; instead it goes off into Safe Space-ism, X-cards and mandatory Consent checklists.

What really bugs me is that there is almost no discussion of reasonable behaviour from the easily-Triggered; it does say 'tell them you're triggered' and 'you have a right to leave', but there is no indication you have a duty to leave if your dislike of X is hurting other people's fun. I guess that ties in with Safe Space culture - a space you might need to leave isn't Safe.

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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2019, 08:21:42 AM »
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If we use this product then that nicely solves the problem of the Gnomish Kings with one simple use of the X card.

But what if the Gnay Gnome fetishist X-cards your X-card? :eek:

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2019, 10:23:22 AM »
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It's free, so I'm downloading it now.

Re the cover pic, well they could have gone with a Harvey Weinstein lookalike neckbeard GM describing his rape fantasies to a gaggle of horrified rainbow-haired female/minority/differently-abled & LGBTQI players...

Not gonna give them my info sorry.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2019, 10:29:35 AM »
"thanks for filling out the consent form. Now everyone, calculate your anal circumference"

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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2019, 10:29:35 AM »
You hang your X-card on the door and inform the participants whose degree of functionality is uncertain that usage of the X-card will also involve usage of the door, and that said door will only work one way.
Then proceed to enjoy the game.  
I realize that this flies in the face of "they shouldn't threaten to kick that person out of the group if they decide not to play this game", but such is life.

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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2019, 10:40:35 AM »
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I realize that this flies in the face of "they shouldn't threaten to kick that person out of the group if they decide not to play this game"

Seems to me the appropriate approach is:

"OK this is a Goblinslayer based game, we all want to play it, so it is gonna include those things you dislike. You're welcome back when we run something different."

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2019, 12:00:31 PM »
Another 'woke' joke. Catering to thin-skinned candyasses. That's all this is. What a bunch of bullshit. lol

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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2019, 12:02:13 PM »
I do not consent to someone lecturing me about consent in table top RPGing.
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