Quote from: tenbones;1105116The REAL question is how much energy do we want to devote to dealing with it?

Edit: Meaning - I don't wanna leave anyone out that I think, despite their dumb beliefs, could be/is a good player. But you know... depends on your depth of patience.

Yes, and cost/benefit and priorities.  For example, it's difficult for me to say how much patience I'd have with some nonsense today, given that I've had so many years of more players than I can reasonably accommodate who have no such issues.  If the cut line is 20 people, and I've 30 with no problem, then the problem players need something more than existence and wanting to play in order to claim a spot.  Those few times when I was putting together a group in a new town, I'd put up with some problems for some time, if it appeared to not be chronic.

No question that *today* - it's getting harder.

There are things that are completely routine and obvious to me in terms of what tropes inform most of my games that have completely horrified young adult SJW's in my games. So much so it took me aback. And in a few instances I had to cut them from the group.

For example... I *love* spy and crime movies and books. Probably my *favorite* genre (more so than sci-fi and fantasy). Give me some Godfather, Goodfellas, Sopranos, Peaky Blinders, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, Narcos, - I'm in Porcine Paradise! I also come from the wrong side of the tracks with a former Police officer father, and the rest of my paternal family being inverterate criminals/Government informants - the whole crazy thing. So when those elements are in my game, you bet your ass it's ruthless.

Well I've had SJW players wanting to waltz into my games with "I'm a halfling thief working with my family guild of Thieves!"  and I happen to have such a group of Halfling thieves in my campaign so I plug him in... And he thinks he's going to be fucking Robin Hood, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor and he has zero concept about how that works in Organized Crime. He ends up getting more people killed. He plays what he thinks are practical jokes on straight-up stone-cold killers who then falsely start offing people over his antics... and wonders why when it comes back to him - he's got half-dozen murders to answer for and has kicked off a turf-war.

Then the stress mounts and he's sitting with me for hours bemoaning his "situation" as if I'm the one screwing him over. All the while the other players are trying to warn him "this ain't Candyland the RPG".

Not to mention the invariable accusations of calling players racists because their PC's might be bigots, etc. (the whole Dwarf vs. Elf thing) ugh. It's real.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1105016I told my crew about this nonsense and they called me out for making it up! Not Monte Cook!! No fucking way! I sent them to the interwebs and after a few minutes of muttered "holy fucks" and "these bitches are insane!", I slapped them until I got my apology. I'm the only one who spends time on game forums anymore and even our most liberal player was shaking his head in disbelief.

My girlfriend asked if I thought I'd have a hobby left in the next decade. I'm sure I will because even our "Warren 2020" clown loves how our game table is "safe space" from the doubleplusgoodthink bullshit of the outer world.

As always, I thank the gods for deplorable scum, toxic men and ladies who love us!!!

Had the same response and we all got a good laugh out of it and the Deadlands announcement. I love my group.

Quote from: tenbones;1105185No question that *today* - it's getting harder.

There are things that are completely routine and obvious to me in terms of what tropes inform most of my games that have completely horrified young adult SJW's in my games. So much so it took me aback. And in a few instances I had to cut them from the group.

For example... I *love* spy and crime movies and books. Probably my *favorite* genre (more so than sci-fi and fantasy). Give me some Godfather, Goodfellas, Sopranos, Peaky Blinders, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, Narcos, - I'm in Porcine Paradise! I also come from the wrong side of the tracks with a former Police officer father, and the rest of my paternal family being inverterate criminals/Government informants - the whole crazy thing. So when those elements are in my game, you bet your ass it's ruthless.

Well I've had SJW players wanting to waltz into my games with "I'm a halfling thief working with my family guild of Thieves!"  and I happen to have such a group of Halfling thieves in my campaign so I plug him in... And he thinks he's going to be fucking Robin Hood, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor and he has zero concept about how that works in Organized Crime. He ends up getting more people killed. He plays what he thinks are practical jokes on straight-up stone-cold killers who then falsely start offing people over his antics... and wonders why when it comes back to him - he's got half-dozen murders to answer for and has kicked off a turf-war.

Then the stress mounts and he's sitting with me for hours bemoaning his "situation" as if I'm the one screwing him over. All the while the other players are trying to warn him "this ain't Candyland the RPG".

Not to mention the invariable accusations of calling players racists because their PC's might be bigots, etc. (the whole Dwarf vs. Elf thing) ugh. It's real.

It's crazy isn't it? I have tables for play after hours at my store. I had a newer player come to me because his DM killed his character and wanted me to tell the DM he couldn't do that without his consent.

I was like, "What?".

I've know the DM for years so I just explained that the group wasn't for him an "No, your DM doesn't need your consent to kill your PC and that if that was what you wanted it is probably best if you look for a game elsewhere."

Quote from: Sunsword;1105322It's crazy isn't it? I have tables for play after hours at my store. I had a newer player come to me because his DM killed his character and wanted me to tell the DM he couldn't do that without his consent. [...]

Aww ha ha ha aww! That's positively adorable. How old was the child? Were they of vaping age?

You should always ask for consent before killing players.

It's the least you can do.

Quote from: Sunsword;1105322It's crazy isn't it? I have tables for play after hours at my store. I had a newer player come to me because his DM killed his character and wanted me to tell the DM he couldn't do that without his consent.

I was like, "What?".

I've know the DM for years so I just explained that the group wasn't for him an "No, your DM doesn't need your consent to kill your PC and that if that was what you wanted it is probably best if you look for a game elsewhere."

Okay! now THAT is special!

Quote from: Gagarth;1103594I can't wait to unleash this on my players.  

Is a module for Fantasy Grounds out yet?

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1105598Is a module for Fantasy Grounds out yet?

No because too many Intersectional Jihadist snowflakes were triggered by the thoughts of having to download and install software.

[video=youtube;IdQ4vqCWYTw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQ4vqCWYTw[/youtube]

Quote from: Gagarth;1105706No because too many Intersectional Jihadist snowflakes were triggered by the thoughts of having to download and install software.

Why does the guy yell "Please do not use gendered language" at the Asian woman at 2:17?

Edit: Maybe he is yelling a the guy who says "Guys, first of all..." at 1:54? Which is rather rude, since the guy just said he was prone to sensory overload.

Can someone explain to me what the weird up in the arm handwaving was about? Serious question because it looked like they were either a bunch of people who had suffered a physical injury and trying to do a crippled version of the wave at sports events.

Personal edit: Wow so clapping is offensive and can trigger someone so lets wave our hands in the air. like a bunch of idiots.

That's where narcisssm+self-loathing will take an unreasoned mind, unfortunately.

Everything becomes a means to force others to acknowledge their personal issues as part of their distinct identity. Anything less means you're filled with irrational hatred.

Quote from: sureshot;1106209Can someone explain to me what the weird up in the arm handwaving was about? Serious question because it looked like they were either a bunch of people who had suffered a physical injury and trying to do a crippled version of the wave at sports events.

Personal edit: Wow so clapping is offensive and can trigger someone so lets wave our hands in the air. like a bunch of idiots.

You got it.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/universitys-move-replace-clapping-jazz-hands-sparks-controversy/story?id=58254353

I always wondered how fun it would be LARPing 'Paranoia'. We're almost there guys!

("Please stop using gendered language!" :mad: "But what happens when I translate into Spanish?" :confused: "Stop. I have stated my boundaries!" :mad: "But your boundaries are imperialistic oppression of my cultural existence!" :mad: /hand-waving intensifies)

With entertainments like these I think we might actually live in the best of possible worlds! :cool:

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