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Author Topic: 5E Dragonlance is out in the wild now.  (Read 1530 times)

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Re: 5E Dragonlance is out in the wild now.
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2022, 09:25:34 AM »
I do not recall it ever saying there could not be any female Knights? Been decades since broke out the books.

The DC comics had a woman on the road to becoming a Knight. I followed the DC D&D lines for a good while. Some of it is pretty good too. Some is kinda meh. For some reason the Spelljammer one felt the most disappointing. Like it was missing the spark of the older series and seemed a little disjointed.

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Re: 5E Dragonlance is out in the wild now.
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2022, 07:04:14 PM »
As I said on twit, this is why you don't want Greyhawk from WotC.
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Re: 5E Dragonlance is out in the wild now.
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2022, 04:38:29 PM »
How are the gods handled? There have been varying interpretations of the Krynnish pantheons, and I'm curious to see whether some of the 'heretical' texts are still cropping up. :)

The Gods are referenced during the History section. It is not a source book, but it gives you enough background to run a good campaign. The Gods are each summarized by a little paragraph and a picture of their symbol. Here is an example:

Takhisis

Takhisis, leader of Krynn’s evil gods, is known as the Dragon Queen, the Queen of Darkness, and—on other worlds—Tiamat. She is the god of power, pride, and control, as well as the queen of chromatic dragons. She tempts mortals to her service with offers of dominance over others. Barred from Krynn since before the Cataclysm, she found her chance to return in the centuries that followed. She sometimes appears as a powerful human warrior with gleaming armor and long black hair, but her true form is a five-headed dragon.


I thought if they were going to sneak something in, they would have done so here. Takhisis has been represented as both male and female in the past (although predominately female). You can see where I’m going... But no. I will say her art looks like something straight out of a high school art class.

All of the Neutral Gods on Krynn are strangely True Neutral (just listed as Neutral). This does not have a material effect on anything, but I believe that departs from previous versions.
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Re: 5E Dragonlance is out in the wild now.
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2022, 05:07:46 PM »
I do not recall it ever saying there could not be any female Knights? Been decades since broke out the books.

The DC comics had a woman on the road to becoming a Knight. I followed the DC D&D lines for a good while. Some of it is pretty good too. Some is kinda meh. For some reason the Spelljammer one felt the most disappointing. Like it was missing the spark of the older series and seemed a little disjointed.

Good question, and good point. I believe you could play a female knight in the Gold Box games. I do not recall a specific rule against them being documented anywhere, however, it seemed strongly implied.

It would be interesting if anyone here can find an example of a female Knight in the Age of Despair or earlier.

Some items that I believe to be true, but please check my facts:

1. Vinas Solamnus founded the knights, all of them were male. Luccia Solamnus was his wife and childhood friend. They joined the army together and fought in battles for a considerable amount of time. This predated the founding of the knights. She was never listed as one of the founding knights after being formed by Vinas. Their son was a founding member.

2. This is from memory, but I do not recall any mention of a female in the knighthood in the Legend of Huma. This significantly predates the War of the Lance, but speaks to the pattern.

3. There is no mention of females in the knighthood in the original trilogies. In fact, they make a not so insignificant deal about Laurana leading the knights as the Golden General. In fairness, she was elven and not from Solamnia (being of Solamnia is 100% a requirement), but there were references to her being a woman as well from what I recall.

Edited: Armchair proved this to be wrong!
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Re: 5E Dragonlance is out in the wild now.
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2022, 05:10:04 PM »

The Knights of Solamnia are really well done. I still won’t let anything other than a Fighter or Paladin select it as a background. So they can pound sand. Women as Knights during this time is a retcon, but inevitable and not the first time this has been done iirc.

   Well, there was precedent in the Third Dragon War according to Astinus in Dragons of Spring Dawning, and the DC Comics have Riva Silvercrown running around aspiring to Knighthood at about this same time--and she will eventually make it, even if she spends most of her time on Taladas. I'd say it should be treated as 'highly uncommon, and remarked upon, but not outright forbidden.'

I somehow originally missed this. I’ll take that as a legitimate example. Thanks!