5e Basic - House Rules Discussion

Opaopajr · July 13, 2014, 01:29:14 AM

... I don't think I can play a magic class until Cantrips are capped. I've spoken my problem with Prestidigitation and Thaumaturgy in this topic already. I am a finite being; there is only so much self-control available.

Natty Bodak · July 13, 2014, 01:38:34 AM

Quote from: Opaopajr;768334... I don't think I can play a magic class until Cantrips are capped. I've spoken my problem with Prestidigitation and Thaumaturgy in this topic already. I am a finite being; there is only so much self-control available.

I can muster the interest to play a few games as is, but I doubt I could develop much investment in a campaign with the at-will Thaumadigitations.

It's one thing to have a bit of disappointment that they didn't pick my particular cuppa as the reference point for a new edition (we've all been there, amiright?), but given the nature of power creep / powers creep (pretty much monotonically increasing) it's that much more frustrating that they didn't start out with the lower-magic option and tack on.

Marleycat · July 13, 2014, 02:02:06 AM

Quote from: Opaopajr;768334... I don't think I can play a magic class until Cantrips are capped. I've spoken my problem with Prestidigitation and Thaumaturgy in this topic already. I am a finite being; there is only so much self-control available.

They are capped. You only get them if you're a full spellcaster (cleric, wizard, bard, sorcerer and maybe warlock) 5 is your total unless you're a high elf or tiefling. And if you actually think an official module for lower magic won't be in the DMG like slots per day or Primary stat add + level isn't offered you're being a bit closed minded. Cantrips like healing rates are painfully easy to alter if that's your preference.

LibraryLass · July 13, 2014, 03:34:22 AM

Quote from: Marleycat;768346They are capped. You only get them if you're a full spellcaster (cleric, wizard, bard, sorcerer and maybe warlock) 5 is your total unless you're a high elf or tiefling. And if you actually think an official module for lower magic won't be in the DMG like slots per day or Primary stat add + level isn't offered you're being a bit closed minded. Cantrips like healing rates are painfully easy to alter if that's your preference.

I think he means capped in terms of uses per day.

Opa, I suggest (and I may have done before, I don't remember) limiting cantrip uses to the appropriate ability score (Intelligence for Wizards, Wisdom for Clerics and Druids, etc.) This will still give you enough that you're not hopelessly crippled, but give you a reason not to just spam your cantrips constantly.

crkrueger · July 13, 2014, 03:41:15 AM

Quote from: Opaopajr;768334... I don't think I can play a magic class until Cantrips are capped. I've spoken my problem with Prestidigitation and Thaumaturgy in this topic already. I am a finite being; there is only so much self-control available.

Tiefling rogue Opa, Thaumaturgy at-will. You're your own walking John Woo special effects team. You're even cool when taking a shit. :cool:

Opaopajr · July 13, 2014, 03:46:08 AM

Quote from: LibraryLass;768362I think he means capped in terms of uses per day.

Opa, I suggest (and I may have done before, I don't remember) limiting cantrip uses to the appropriate ability score (Intelligence for Wizards, Wisdom for Clerics and Druids, etc.) This will still give you enough that you're not hopelessly crippled, but give you a reason not to just spam your cantrips constantly.

Yes, that is what I meant, the at-will issue. And yes, I have that houserule mentioned in my first post in this topic, IIRC. And yes Marleycat, I do intend to take a look at the DMG magic restriction options when they appear.

However I also do know myself, too. My self-imposed restriction to only play fighters and rogues until the DMG is more an attempt to not be the table asshole. Trust me, I can gleefully ThaumaDigiFap an entire session by myself at the starting town — as GM or player — and as the corollary to Martha Stewart's Wisdom "that's not a good thing."

Opaopajr · July 13, 2014, 03:56:59 AM

Quote from: CRKrueger;768363Tiefling rogue Opa, Thaumaturgy at-will. You're your own walking John Woo special effects team. You're even cool when taking a shit. :cool:

Monty, Monty, Monty! I don't even knoooow! Door number one, two, and three? Oh my gawd, Monty! — I could really use the lifetime supply of paper towels, but... Oh my gawd, should I let the audience decide?

(You don't even understand. I was already looking at Basic with High Elves getting a wizard Cantrip — obviously Prestidigitation! — and already planning: 1. puffs of wind, 2. blowing out a candle, 3. odd odor, and following up with a haughty "Who farted?" in my best Patrick Stewart voice. I can't, I just can't take it! I've already been bouncing off the walls with the possibilities for days!)

Opaopajr · July 13, 2014, 04:06:09 AM

Oh fuck me, now I gotta plot what to do with a Tiefling Rogue with Thaumaturgy...

30 seconds in. Acrobatics, Stealth, Thaumaturgy: Climb heights, hide, create raven/eagle cries as you ninja shit on people from above. Repeatedly. Sweet Jesus Christ, cut me off already, I'm a junkie!

LibraryLass · July 13, 2014, 06:28:49 AM

Quote from: Opaopajr;768365Yes, that is what I meant, the at-will issue. And yes, I have that houserule mentioned in my first post in this topic, IIRC.

Ah, so you did. My bad!