Honestly, railroading is not one of the problems with APs. That's a problem that originates solely from the GM.

Quote from: DeadUematsu;330065Honestly, railroading is not one of the problems with APs. That's a problem that originates solely from the GM.

Railroading isn't an insurmountable problem with APs, that's true.

What's not true on the other hand is that some modules aren't more railroady than others, and quite extremely so. Lots of stuff in Second Darkness went to new extremes even on the end of the scale that is Paizo, by having codified entrance and exit points in the module with scenes scripted to port the PCs there. And oh, there were also NPCs accompanying the party who'd lead the PCs by the nose from one plot point to the other.

Now, of course you're right and a GM can just erase this bullshit and run the remainder of the module. The problem with some modules, however, is that nothing much remains left of them. Case in point Endless Night, Memory of Darkness. Worst Paizo modules ever, generated quite a bit of bile even from hardcore fans on the forums.

Quote from: mhensley;330062How many splat books does the average group need?

I could use every since splatbook I own for, say, 4e in a session if I was the DM and determined. How about adventures? More than one?

Seanchai

Quote from: Seanchai;330188I could use every since splatbook I own for, say, 4e in a session if I was the DM and determined. How about adventures? More than one?

Seanchai

Stupid question, stupid answer.

With a splatbooks, what percentage of the contents get used?  For most you'd probalby have a player cherry pick the most broken character option or power they can find and barely even look at the rest.

You can only run one module at a time, but you are pretty likely to use a massive percentage of the material presented within.  

At the end of the day, for WOTCs model, the splat books are far more profitable than modules, largely because so many people are willing to spend the $$$ ond hardback splat books for a small no. of ideas or one or two incremental power upgrades for their character.  This will work even better going forward given the paucity of options presented in the 4E PHB.

For Paizo, their business is APs.  They may branch more into splat books (probably will) but I doubt they would abondon their core business.  I'm sure they will remain very profitable doing so even though you personally seem to have a lot invested in the Pathfinder rpg not being successful.

Quote from: Fiasco;330239With a splatbooks, what percentage of the contents get used?  For most you'd probalby have a player cherry pick the most broken character option or power they can find and barely even look at the rest.

And that's what it's designed for: to be cherry-picked.

Quote from: Fiasco;330239You can only run one module at a time, but you are pretty likely to use a massive percentage of the material presented within.  

Exactly. Thus we come back to, "Also, how many adventures does the average group need? One per group every two months?"

Quote from: Fiasco;330239For Paizo, their business is APs.  They may branch more into splat books (probably will) but I doubt they would abondon their core business.

They may? I was just at their site this morning, checking out products from their weekly e-mail. You ought to educate yourself about their product line before you comment on it. It's not adventures with some other stuff thrown in.

For example, what they were pimping this week in the e-mail (titled "This Week at Paizo: New Item Cards, Paper Minis, Fumble Deck, and Judge Dredd!‏") were cards. Item cards and critical fumble cards.

Quote from: Fiasco;330239I'm sure they will remain very profitable doing so even though you personally seem to have a lot invested in the Pathfinder rpg not being successful.

You've spent far more time trashing 4e than I have pointing out what's up with Pathfinder. (In fact, how many of your 160 plus posts deal with non-4e issues?) Are you sure bringing up "personal investments" is a wise strategy on your part?

For the record, I think Paizo is a great company with awesome and awesome looking products (hence my checking out their weekly e-mails to see if there's something I want to buy from them). I have no interest in the Pathfinder RPG because I already have shelves of 3.5 material and because it doesn't bring anything new to the table a la Midnight, Unearthed Arcana, Iron Heroes, et al..

What I have a problem with is all the bullshit your kind spews - in this case, for example, about Pathfinder being some kind of second coming.

Seanchai

Quote from: Seanchai;326549Every time you whine about my behavior, I just keep quiet and wait until you remind folks what a charmer you are.

Dude, he's not the one in peril in that department.

Aside from which: you, "just be quiet"?

Quote from: Seanchai;330291And that's what it's designed for: to be cherry-picked.

What I have a problem with is all the bullshit your kind spews - in this case, for example, about 4e being some kind of second coming.

How many times does Seanchai have to say that 4E isn't for him... Oh wait, this is StormBringer. Nevermind.

Quote from: DeadUematsu;330364How many times does Seanchai have to say that 4E isn't for him... Oh wait, this is StormBringer. Nevermind.

Your incisive logic has... Oh, wait, this is DeadUematsu.  Nevermind.

Quote from: thecasualoblivion;329873I am so misunderstood.

I don't get it.

:confused:

Quote from: The Shaman;330622I don't get it.

:confused:

People think I have an agenda. I can see why people might think that, but it isn't the case. I'd explain, but not explaining is too much fun.

Quote from: thecasualoblivion;330625People think I have an agenda. I can see why people might think that, but it isn't the case. I'd explain, but not explaining is too much fun.

It was a weak attempt at humor, tco.

"I'm misunderstood!" "Huh?"

See?

Oh well, any joke you have to explain . . .

Quote from: The Shaman;330628It was a weak attempt at humor, tco.

"I'm misunderstood!" "Huh?"

See?

Oh well, any joke you have to explain . . .

Ok, maybe I will explain:

I like arguing with people. I don't really care about winning the argument, and I don't really care which argument. I've argued with people over what Transformers line is superior, which American Idol contestant sucks, whether or not overfocusing on tournament play was ruining M:tG for those who played casually, I argued with people over whether the Fighter sucked and spellcasting was too powerful in 3E ect.  Posting on message boards without an argument is boring. I say I don't have an agenda, because I'm not here to promote one, I'm just here to join in the argument. I don't have a goal beyond that. If I were to win the argument and the argument would end, my reason for existence would end as well.

In the RPG world right now, 4E is the center of the storm. I'm here for the storm, not for 4E.

Quote from: thecasualoblivion;330631In the RPG world right now, 4E is the center of the storm. I'm here for the storm, not for 4E.

In other words, nothing's really worth discussing with you, since you're just here to argue.

Quote from: Benoist;330632In other words, nothing's really worth discussing with you, since you're just here to argue.

Maybe TCO is an aspiring trial lawyer.