Quote from: Taggie;1143030you miss spelt paedophile loving white nationalists (aka conservatives and Christians )

Antifa have killed exactly no one, so how exactly they are militaristic compared to the frantic masturbation of conservatives to films of mass shooting victims, torture victims from abu gharaid and gitmo, and the dismembered child victims of drone strikes, I don't know.

don't see any obsession with national security, nor massive empowerment of unaccountable and hyper violent psychotic thugs (aka the police)

what junk science exactly?  protecting the sciences from being used as a weapon by the malignant conservative death cult, is not junk science, stopping the traitors of the republican party deleting data is not junk science, resisting evil is not junk science.

Banned for attempting to derail a main forum thread by posting off-topic politics.

Quote from: Shasarak;1142816SwordDream is some kind of super woke OSR producer mainly based on Twitter I think.

Oh, yeah, I remember hearing about that a while back. Guess I forgot all about it.

Quote from: sureshot;1142843Pretending to be dumb and disingenuous as usual while never accepting responsibility. It is called the SAFETY TOOLKIT if you bothered to do the research

I already explained what I thought the Safety Toolkit was and why. And I said immediately I had not researched that one. Much like the OP had not researched all the games on the list he was making a general accusation about, but you had no issue with his post because you agreed with his ideological take on it.

Quoteyou would have learnt the nature of the product. Keep hiding behind the equally disingenuous "I thought it was about PC safety".

It's not disingenuous. That is in fact what I suspected it was. I thought it was some silly cutesy name for a knock-off product on some of the more popular versions of that concept.

Ask yourself for just the briefest moment, if a person did in fact think that's what the title was referring to, wouldn't their responses to you...look exactly like my responses have been to you? Go all the way back, to before you make accusations about me calling me a liar about this topic. Assume that's what I am thinking when I make my posts - that I just assumed it was some benign free product like a PC survival guide.

Because that's the truth. And no amount of you calling me names will change that from being the truth about my assumptions about that product. I never claimed to have looked it up, I just dismissed it as being some PC survival guide based on the title.

QuoteI am not a Conservative you continual disingenuous twat I am a centrist. Not to far left yet neither to far to right. Apparently I am an enemy to both leftists and those on the right. Though out of the two the Leftists tend to call you out more if one is not drinking the SJW kool-aid... I don't surround myself with SJWs or those who simply echo what I want to hear. Nor demand an echo chamber. Funny how as soon as you get an pushback Or people disagree with you the assumption is that we are Conservative or Far Right.

Good to know I am not alone in being a centrist around here.

You made an ideological claim about me personally, where you said  "a trait most SJWs lack imo" and I "decided to be "GO GO SJW Rangers"". It was baseless and false. Do not now whine, moan, and cry that I am picking on you for calling you on your ideological claim. It does not make me a social justice warrior because I didn't know what the fucking Safety Toolkit was without looking it up and thought it was something else (and I still don't know why anyone cares about free products - I believe in the simple gatekeeping check of CHARGING FOR QUALITY PRODUCTS). It doesn't make me a social justice warrior for thinking that the overall ENnies list might have some value and is not all "garbage" even if it has a few games products in there which are not appealing to me and which are ideological in nature. Your reaction to me is similar to your reaction to the ENnies: over the top.

You know Pundit is right.  The best reward you can get is money cause those award shows mean jack fucking shit.

Quote from: Snowman0147;1143136You know Pundit is right.  The best reward you can get is money cause those award shows mean jack fucking shit.

And don't pay the bills.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1143138And don't pay the bills.

Exactly why getting paid for your honest work is the best reward.

Quote from: Snowman0147;1143140Exactly why getting paid for your honest work is the best reward.

Hell, that's what I've been saying.

Terry Pratchett once remarked that he felt briefly bad about losing out in the Hugos, but then going home and falling into a big pile of money made things better.

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1143184Hell, that's what I've been saying.

Terry Pratchett once remarked that he felt briefly bad about losing out in the Hugos, but then going home and falling into a big pile of money made things better.

Pratchett is a treasure.  And awards are what the losers get for not getting rich.  Unless you get rich and the awards, in which case the awards don't really mean much... because you're rich!

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1143184Hell, that's what I've been saying.

Terry Pratchett once remarked that he felt briefly bad about losing out in the Hugos, but then going home and falling into a big pile of money made things better.

I recall reading an interview with Jerry Pournelle where he said something similar. When asked if it bothered him that he'd never won a Hugo despite how popular his books were, he replied that money will get you through the times with no Hugos a lot more comfortably than Hugos will get you through the times with no money.

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1142958They're still having a hard time of it, because controlling the publishers isn't enough. They have to control the end user as well. It does them no good if you buy* their Social Justice RPG Remix and rip out the theme and replace it with Murderhobo Simulator 3000.

* and that assumes you buy it and don't pirate the damn thing.

It's more than that.  From the SJW perspective, any outcome is a win for them:

- people buy their thing and play it, thus spreading the infection.
- they distract attention from other games that aren't spreading the infection.
- they infect an existing game and eventually kill the host--more infection spread during the meantime and something that wasn't infected now discredited.

When the main goal is to destroy, then they don't get too picky about what gets destroyed today versus what is set to self-destruct later.

Quote from: Dimitrios;1143211I recall reading an interview with Jerry Pournelle where he said something similar. When asked if it bothered him that he'd never won a Hugo despite how popular his books were, he replied that money will get you through the times with no Hugos a lot more comfortably than Hugos will get you through the times with no money.

I can verify that Mr. Pournelle did not give two shits about awards. And that he did nicely for his family, money-wise, and had a nice house and cars for it.

He was a lovable cranky bastard who, had he been born in a different era, would have fit in nicely here on this site.

Quote from: Snowman0147;1143136You know Pundit is right.  The best reward you can get is money cause those award shows mean jack fucking shit.

I would agree, but having an award can sometimes be leveraged into more sales.

I don't think that the Ennies specifically have a TON of clout, but they will likely get more people to be aware of your system (even just being nominated as people vote and potentially look up various systems), which will likely end up with at least a few more sales.

Frankly - it seems like the Ennies have too many different categories which overlap too much. If you have too many different Ennie winners, it dilutes any value that such an award would otherwise give.

Plus, having such small sub-categories open to general voting makes it too easy for some of them to be won my concerted voting drives rather than via true merit.

Quote from: Charon's Little Helper;1143287I don't think that the Ennies specifically have a TON of clout, but they will likely get more people to be aware of your system (even just being nominated as people vote and potentially look up various systems), which will likely end up with at least a few more sales.

FWIW, I probably never would've heard of that Mork Borg game if it hadn't been for this thread (and the ennie award it won). Now, in my case I wasn't interested enough to buy it or anything, but it did get me to look at it and become aware of it.

Actually, come to think of it, the only time I pay attention the ennies is when they're mentioned on this board. I remember that happening, before (something to do with some Zak nominations, I think). The other places I hang out don't usually talk about them at all.