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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2007, 10:51:07 AM »
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Check the link in his sig.  GRIM has the rights to the British 1990's RPG "Blood!", has revamped the system and is pretty close to releasing it.  System-wise, think of a horror-oriented Runequest with Warhammer's critical hit's tables (I believe there are two separate critical tables for "Power Tools" and a dedicated "Chainsaw" table).  Theme-wise think "Dog Soldiers" or "28 Days Later" though it's equally good at doing "Saw", "The Thing" or any horror movie

(full disclosure: I'm doing some creature conversions and other donkey work for him)


Well, the main book is actually out :)

At the moment I'm supporting it with a RuneQuest and d20 Modern conversion of the existing creatures from the main rule book (to expose people to the game and to get a bit of cross-market) and then we'll be moving on to new critters and hopefully the future or medieval setting book later in the year.

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Leisuregames have a limited number of hardcopies for sale incidentally, and some of my other stuff in hardcopy.
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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2007, 11:11:58 AM »
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Well, the main book is actually out :)


Well, somebody needs to update their website then :p
 

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« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2007, 11:16:28 AM »
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Well, somebody needs to update their website then :p


I'm having a new version made up for me, so I am. So ner :P
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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2007, 06:10:12 AM »
Hey Grim, I'm not familiar with your stuff, but I'll be sure to check it out.

I've been working through some of the PDFs I've bought recently and have been very, very disappointed. Two in particular (the two that Ive managed to wade through so far) have really annoyed me. I don't know if anyone else has heard of 'Contenders'? It apparently won a competition on the Forge but i can't see why. The first thing that hit me was that there is no GM, hardly any rules for anything and no guidance for creating adventures. It makes no sense and the guy that created it has the cheek to put 'roleplaying game' on the cover. Really, no GM. How the hell does that work? It doesnt as far as I can see.

The other one has left me even more disappointed because its written by someone whos stuff I liked before. Now it seems hes been supping from the Forge trough. Its called 'Cold City' and even though it has a GM (a step up from Contenders, I suppose) it goes on about narrative (just say what you mean - call it an adventure!), stakes (whatever they are really meant to be - I understand this is a trend in forgey games?) and all that. And I hate to say it but Malcolm craig obviously knows very little about the Cold War or Nazi Germany. Thats pretty apparent from the game.

From what Ive been reading the forge thing is getting just as bad on this side of the pond as it is in the US. Im really very disappointed that our home grown games talent has to follow like sheep and not do something on their own.

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« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2007, 06:46:02 PM »
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But it would have helped if you actually carried on to point out exactly how he's being a shithead: with the ridiculous assertion that he'd never met anyone who played D&D.

Ridiculous? Point of fact it was true. *shrug* Never had met anyone till the second half of the 80's that had actually played the game. Or at least no one that admitted, or any other RPG game. *shrug*  How is that so ridiculous?

So bringing up relavent information is now passive-agressive? It's an incovenient fact or something? As opposed to your mindless thread crapping. Oh, and so JArcane's initial post was a passive-agressive then too I guess? Just a couple of whining hypocritic kids. :rolleyes: :pundit:
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2007, 09:28:32 PM »
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Ridiculous? Point of fact it was true. *shrug* Never had met anyone till the second half of the 80's that had actually played the game. Or at least no one that admitted, or any other RPG game. *shrug*  How is that so ridiculous?


If you were a gamer, and assuming your gaming group wasn't completely insular, its patently ridiculous.

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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2007, 04:02:03 AM »
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If you were a gamer, and assuming your gaming group wasn't completely insular, its patently ridiculous.

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I didn't run into D&D until well into my gaming career. I was only aware of its existence through adverts in 2000AD.
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« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2007, 05:14:41 AM »
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If you were a gamer, and assuming your gaming group wasn't completely insular, its patently ridiculous.

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Not necessarily, my gaming group in the 1980s did play DnD because that was the first game that anyone bought, but had we started with something else I can see it could have been years before we'd met a DnD player.

Unlikely sure, but the world is full of unlikely things.

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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2007, 05:47:57 AM »
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If you were a gamer, and assuming your gaming group wasn't completely insular, its patently ridiculous.

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Likewise, I started roleplaying with TSR's Basic Marvel Super Heroes set in '85-86 that I pestered my folks into buying for me from Toys R Us after seeing ads for it in my Spiderman comics. I had no idea what roleplaying was, and hadn't heard of D&D. I formed a group with some friends from school, and started playing and stumbled onto the broader hobby. But...

I've been a member of three or four games clubs over the years, and been a part of dozen of groups. And none of them showed any interest in playing D&D (Most people I have met tended to mainly play stuff like Traveller, Paranoia, CoC, Champions, Star Wars D6, WHFRP and so on for the first ten years and then various White Wolf stuff since the early 90's) until I joined a new group about 6 months ago. So that's twenty or so years, playing in dozens of different groups, without finding a group that wanted to play D&D.

EDIT: Just to make things clear, some of the people may well have played D&D in the past, but there was little to no desire (in the groups/clubs I was part of) to actually play it.

(This is in the UK, if that makes any difference.)
 

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« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2007, 05:59:18 AM »
I might as well offer up some data here. Like Wartren, I got my start on Marvel Super-heroes. Like Max, I had the same group through adolescence with no contact with anyone else who played. . .and we didn't play D&D. The older kid who showed me MSH did, but he was never part of our group. So we played what we had, with who we had, and it wasn't until college, in 1999, at age 24, that I actually played D&D and had any significant contact with D&D-savvy gamers. So I can see the possibility of growing up absent any D&Ders. Gaming has always been a pretty grassroots and irregular hobby.

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« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2007, 05:59:58 AM »
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If you were a gamer, and assuming your gaming group wasn't completely insular, its patently ridiculous.

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I started with Traveller and for fantasy we used RQ and then we played D&D. I mean, D&D was popular, but when I started gaming half the group hadn't heard of it because we were so caught up in the campaigns we were running/playing with these two systems and were not really thinking about other games. For SF with had Traveller and fantasy RQ - we were good to go :)

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« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2007, 12:36:19 PM »
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Not necessarily, my gaming group in the 1980s did play DnD because that was the first game that anyone bought, but had we started with something else I can see it could have been years before we'd met a DnD player.

Unlikely sure, but the world is full of unlikely things.
I think the point for me, regarding blakkie's comment, is not how likely it is, or even whether it's true or not (though I would vernture as to guess it's a bald-faced lie).  

It's more that blakkie has made it abundantly clear as long as I've been posting here that his only role on this site is to basically make a hamfisted attempt at playing the role of one of Pundit's "Swine", and his backhanded little comment was an excellent example of the kind of shit he pulls all the time.
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« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2007, 10:09:10 AM »
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Where did I say I played P&P games then? I played games, card, board, and computer games. I was the second kid in our school to have a home computer, and the other was the Algerbra teacher's kid and they had no real interest in computers. Hrmm, so I guess I did play RPGs before I played played D&D. Yup, I'm freaking ancient and I still played CRPGs before P&P. Of course I didn't really care much for CRPGs, and still don't. *shrug*

Now if I knew that other P&P games even existed? If I knew about Traveller I might have tried to find it. Who knows.

But my point was that media coverage, general or niche, tends to outreach some people's immediate surroundings. Hell there was even a TV movie of the week a number of years before I met anyone that played D&D. Of course my cousin almost played D&D once in the early 80's (a humourous story for another time), so I guess it was close to happening. *shrug* But such is the nature of news and entertainment media, it is what is suppose to do.

With my other example Traveller, and it is just an example no slight ment by it, I've played P&P for quite some time now and still have to see it in action or talk to anyone in the flesh about it. Yet it has even made small appearances outside gaming media coverage.

Ironically, though I hadn't mentioned it before, in the course of playing "traditional" games I personally have run into people that have played other IPR games. I wouldn't expect that to translate to the norm of course or it being "patently ridiculous" or going around calling people liar based of absolutely fuck all. But hey, that's just me. :o
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(though I would vernture as to guess it's a bald-faced lie).

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It's more that blakkie has made it abundantly clear as long as I've been posting here that his only role on this site is to basically make a hamfisted attempt at playing the role of one of Pundit's "Swine", and his backhanded little comment was an excellent example of the kind of shit he pulls all the time.

It wasn't backhanded at all. Of course you might see it that way if you intended your initial post to be backhanded or an attack.....which bring us back to you being a whining hypocritical kid.

So to sum up and wrap up, to your request for me to stop posting non-threaddumping, on-topic response to a post that you voluntarily are making I can only answer: Go get bent you "little cocksucker". :rolleyes:
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« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2007, 04:03:37 PM »
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Where did I say I played P&P games then? I played games, card, board, and computer games. I was the second kid in our school to have a home computer, and the other was the Algerbra teacher's kid and they had no real interest in computers. Hrmm, so I guess I did play RPGs before I played played D&D. Yup, I'm freaking ancient and I still played CRPGs before P&P. Of course I didn't really care much for CRPGs, and still don't. *shrug*


So... your argument evidencing for D&D's lack of popularity is that, before you were an RPG gamer, you weren't around people who played D&D?

Yeah, ok, that's just spectacular. Clearly, your argument is ironclad.

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« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2007, 04:31:17 PM »
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So... your argument evidencing for D&D's lack of popularity is that, before you were an RPG gamer, you weren't around people who played D&D?

WTF are you talking about? :confused: :confused: :confused: Um, I was talking about it being uncommon to run into people in the general public that had played D&D relative to encountering people that had heard something about D&D via the general public media (distorted or not). What was it then, maybe a few 1/10ths of a percentage of people that had played the game?

P.S. On the subject of the TV-movie Mazes and Monsters I vaguely recall seeing it and came away with the distinct impression of 'wow, that kid showed up broken'. The movie didn't seem to link his problems that closely to having played the game? Or was that just me?
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