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« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2016, 01:21:06 AM »
Man, I really wanted to excited about this, but... It's got a phone ap, plus some kind of collectable and/or semi-collectable cards (It's not clear), some kind of medallions,  secret codes hidden in the books, the "Directed campaign" subscription... It's just seems like TOO MUCH. Like buying a whole new hobby rather than just a game.

Talking myself out of buying this wasn't terribly hard.
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« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2016, 12:48:21 PM »
THIS IS NOT A WHOLE NEW WAY TO PLAY

I was doing this pervasively in 1992 in my Shadowrun campaign.

FFS, Monte, WTF?

"Changing The Way RPGs Are Played": "Side scenes"

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Also, the "Directed Campaign" isn't a new thing, either. WEG tried something similar with Torg's Infiniverse campaign, where they would send individual groups custom adventure seeds, and module results would materially affect how the game world developed. Yeah, it's not identical to this, but it's not all that different, either.
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« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2016, 01:07:56 PM »
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THIS IS NOT A WHOLE NEW WAY TO PLAY

I was doing this pervasively in 1992 in my Shadowrun campaign.

FFS, Monte, WTF?

"Changing The Way RPGs Are Played": "Side scenes"

EDIT:

Also, the "Directed Campaign" isn't a new thing, either. WEG tried something similar with Torg's Infiniverse campaign, where they would send individual groups custom adventure seeds, and module results would materially affect how the game world developed. Yeah, it's not identical to this, but it's not all that different, either.


I agree. In fact, the play example looks just like a regular play session for any RPG. Very few of the props are even used.

But Monte really seems to believe it and he really sells it. His marketing fu is strong with a few thousand people. And he will make it sell. It is amazing to watch him market.

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« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2016, 01:47:35 PM »
I'm sure that in a past life Monte was a travelling salesman who purveyed patent medicines to the gullible.

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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2016, 01:56:56 PM »
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I'm sure that in a past life Monte was a travelling salesman who purveyed patent medicines to the gullible.

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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2016, 05:17:09 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2016, 07:11:33 PM »
200 hundred dollars American is... a lot of Brazilian money. And that's before shipping and customs taxes. So, no.

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The settings however that his company are producing seem wildly inventive.

Umm. I don't know, are they? What's Numenera got on dozens of other science fantasy settings? What's The Strange got on, say, GURPS Infinite Earths?

I've been a fan of Monte's work in the past (Arcana Unearthed/Evolved!) but nowadays the draw his stuff exerts on me is like 50% production values, 40% hype and 10% stuff I find really clever or useful.

That being said, I still want to give the Cypher System a shot.

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THIS IS NOT A WHOLE NEW WAY TO PLAY

Aaron Allston called this "bluebooking" in a 1988 Champions sourcebook (Strike Force). We did it all the time. Yeah, older than dirt. Maybe he's setting up explicit systems around the concept? That I'd like to see.

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« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2016, 07:21:57 PM »
Strange maybe not so much, Numenera I thought was pretty cool with the "Billion Years in the Future, so many Ages and Races have ruled Earth so one even knows what Human is anymore or cares" was pretty different actually.  Gods of the Fall maybe not so much considering the rebirth of "God Games", Predation looked to be pretty cool and different twist on Time Travel and Dinosaurs, but Unmasked I thought was just a crazyass look at Supers.
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« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2016, 08:39:38 PM »
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Numenera I thought was pretty cool with the "Billion Years in the Future, so many Ages and Races have ruled Earth so one even knows what Human is anymore or cares" was pretty different actually.  


I'll give you that it's a fascinating image, and put to good use in character creation and maybe in the bestiary — there _are_ sone good ideas in Numenera and I _want_ to like it — but I found the setting gazetteer underwhelming.

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Gods of the Fall maybe not so much considering the rebirth of "God Games",


I'd actually love to look at this gazetter and see what I could steal for my Godbound game.

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Predation looked to be pretty cool and different twist on Time Travel and Dinosaurs,


Yeah, I read this one's Kickstarter blurb. Isn't it kind of a one-trick pony? Feels like "Dinosaurs Are Awesome: The RPG"

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but Unmasked I thought was just a crazyass look at Supers.


This one I don't recall, what is it like?

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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2016, 09:02:47 PM »
Nope. Ain't even lightly interested in the product, except I am interested in the marketing.

Gotta give Monte credit. He leapfrogged in price beyond the fancy KS boardgames and actually is making it work for him.

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« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2016, 09:59:35 PM »
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Nope. Ain't even lightly interested in the product, except I am interested in the marketing.

Gotta give Monte credit. He leapfrogged in price beyond the fancy KS boardgames and actually is making it work for him.

Yup. He definitely priced himself out of my range for sure.  Nothing wrong with catering to an even higher level of the luxury market though I wonder how many backers are merely going to get it for the sake of collecting rather than actually playing it

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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2016, 11:55:08 PM »
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Leave it to Monte Cook to make Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock look reasonable.


Good think I wasn't drinking anything when I read this.

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« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2016, 03:35:48 AM »
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I agree. In fact, the play example looks just like a regular play session for any RPG. Very few of the props are even used.

But Monte really seems to believe it and he really sells it. His marketing fu is strong with a few thousand people. And he will make it sell. It is amazing to watch him market.

Mindless drones, who worship Monte because of D&D 3.5 days.
It really does feel like scam, but everyone has a choice.

Btw. isn't it "other game" and not RPG by this communities standard?

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« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2016, 03:38:07 AM »
I love Cypher system and there's no way I will ever be willing to pay that much for any RPG.
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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2016, 05:09:30 AM »
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Nope. Ain't even lightly interested in the product, except I am interested in the marketing.

Gotta give Monte credit. He leapfrogged in price beyond the fancy KS boardgames and actually is making it work for him.


I agree.