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Author Topic: Wizards MTG sales tanking?  (Read 993 times)

Marchand

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Re: Wizards MTG sales tanking?
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2022, 06:19:04 AM »
The 'wanker" is the one that doesn't say up front that they have the high end cards and then stomp the other players with them.

Ah OK, that makes sense.

Still, I am staggered by the dodginess of the business model, or rather why it hasn't been called out more yet. Maybe it has, and I missed it. Or maybe the D&D wokewashing is just working as intended.
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Re: Wizards MTG sales tanking?
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2022, 12:20:08 AM »
Still, I am staggered by the dodginess of the business model, or rather why it hasn't been called out more yet. Maybe it has, and I missed it. Or maybe the D&D wokewashing is just working as intended.
As an ex-magic player who quit specifically for the reasons of power creep and addiction grabbing, it's somewhat complicated. It has absolutely been called out, but the game is played in many different types of formats.

A popular one (I think the most popular one) is drafting. You make a 1-time use deck from random cards from a collection that your friends invest in together, and there are mechanics to deck making by itself. So even if unbalanced, the unbalanced nature is a game in it itself.

There is also that many boardgames or cardgames of such manner can become stale because similar to chess the best moves have been optimized so much that there is basically nothing new to do. So new cards can mix things up, and generally its hard to make new cards that are just lateral moves.

Now, all that apologia is out of the way: It's absolutely a pay-to-win game that preys on gambling addicts. All collectible trading card games are. In addition the amount of ways Wizards has been abusing its addicts has very steadily gone up over the years:
Way more releases, new rarities that demand more investment of money for cards, and generally sloppier balancing.

This has been called out DECADES ago, but it just sorta became a staple.

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Re: Wizards MTG sales tanking?
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2022, 05:47:09 PM »
This has been called out DECADES ago, but it just sorta became a staple.

I stopped playing M:TG after the Ice Age expansion when it was clear how the game was going. That was 1996 or so.

However, as bad as WotC has been with M:TG, they were super costumer friendly compared to Decipher. Decipher took pay-to-win to the extreme level by making all the good and desirable cards incredibly rare. I remember buying several boxes of boosters for their Star Wars game, spending $130 and getting only one named character in the entire bunch. No Vader, or Luke, or Han, or even Chewbacka. Just one R2-D2. But some random blurry dude from the background scene where they talk about the exhaust port, I got 15 of him. Their Star Trek game was just as bad. Which is a shame because both games were actually fun and well designed.

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Re: Wizards MTG sales tanking?
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2022, 10:17:51 PM »
I stopped playing M:TG after the Ice Age expansion when it was clear how the game was going. That was 1996 or so.

It was Scars of Mirrodin for me (2010) but I started playing in 2009. 'Wait so you can just make something do effectively double damage and destroy indestructible things for 1 more mana? How is that fair?'