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Why D&D SJWs are Attacking Baldur's Gate

Started by RPGPundit, October 28, 2020, 01:16:45 AM

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I really didn't expect to be doing a video about baldurs gate 3 but here we are! Why? Because there's ttrpg / dnd SJWs who are trying to destroy it, and I want to go into how and why.


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Well, I'd say it was a matter of time.

I'm kinda curious how it will end.
The bigger the title, the less there is to be gained by giving in to the perpetually offended as most people just don't care about their imaginary issues.

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consolcwby

#5
My take since I am a vidya gaemah and have been following this fairly closely (I don't do early access though...):
Funny enough, the developers commented that the early access people were creating their characters as.... "The default Vault Dweller" aka The Lone Wanderer from FallOut:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/8/8a/Lone_Wanderer_action_figure.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20101008165856

It was meant as a callback to the original Balder's Gate team, which came from Interplay, which made FallOut. Surprisingly, the blue outfit selected did resemble the iconic videogame character, they were laughing about it and it was cute. However, it was the Vidya Gaem Urinalists who Reee'd "WHITE MAN! WHITE MAN NAHTSEE BAD!!! GRRR....". Thereby, making claims that the players of the game are bad and evil people.
This caught the devs by surprise and their reactions show it. In fact, being an indie studio, they were probably unaware that this would be spun and spun until ... https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/10/16/baldurs-gate-3-devs-sorely-disappointed-that-most-popular-character-creation-option-is-a-white-human-male/

*sigh* Pundit isn't wrong about the whys, but vidya gaems have been under attack from the SJWs and their media for far too long now. Also, IMHO, THE BEST D&D video game of all time is The Pool Of Radiance from SSI released in 1988 Commodore 64 version (first serious attempt at 1E AD&D rules on the computer). Digital OSR: https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Pool_of_Radiance
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Joey2k

Quote from: consolcwby on November 03, 2020, 01:05:36 AM

It was meant as a callback to the original Balder's Gate team, which came from Interplay, which made FallOut. Surprisingly, the blue outfit selected did resemble the iconic videogame character, they were laughing about it and it was cute. However, it was the Vidya Gaem Urinalists who Reee'd "WHITE MAN! WHITE MAN NAHTSEE BAD!!! GRRR....". Thereby, making claims that the players of the game are bad and evil people.
This caught the devs by surprise and their reactions show it. In fact, being an indie studio, they were probably unaware that this would be spun and spun until ... https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/10/16/baldurs-gate-3-devs-sorely-disappointed-that-most-popular-character-creation-option-is-a-white-human-male/

"Skin conditions"?? "Hearing and mobility aids"??  What the actual fuck???
I'm/a/dude

consolcwby

Quote from: Joey2k on November 14, 2020, 11:21:31 PM
Quote from: consolcwby on November 03, 2020, 01:05:36 AM

It was meant as a callback to the original Balder's Gate team, which came from Interplay, which made FallOut. Surprisingly, the blue outfit selected did resemble the iconic videogame character, they were laughing about it and it was cute. However, it was the Vidya Gaem Urinalists who Reee'd "WHITE MAN! WHITE MAN NAHTSEE BAD!!! GRRR....". Thereby, making claims that the players of the game are bad and evil people.
This caught the devs by surprise and their reactions show it. In fact, being an indie studio, they were probably unaware that this would be spun and spun until ... https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/10/16/baldurs-gate-3-devs-sorely-disappointed-that-most-popular-character-creation-option-is-a-white-human-male/

"Skin conditions"?? "Hearing and mobility aids"??  What the actual fuck???
The solution to these and other stupidity can be found in one film: https://youtu.be/-79Mb_uE9Fk ;D
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Null42

Quote from: consolcwby on November 03, 2020, 01:05:36 AM
*sigh* Pundit isn't wrong about the whys, but vidya gaems have been under attack from the SJWs and their media for far too long now. Also, IMHO, THE BEST D&D video game of all time is The Pool Of Radiance from SSI released in 1988 Commodore 64 version (first serious attempt at 1E AD&D rules on the computer). Digital OSR: https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Pool_of_Radiance

You've played the ten or so sequels with the same engine and the FRUA fangames?

Omega

Quote from: Null42 on February 13, 2021, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: consolcwby on November 03, 2020, 01:05:36 AM
*sigh* Pundit isn't wrong about the whys, but vidya gaems have been under attack from the SJWs and their media for far too long now. Also, IMHO, THE BEST D&D video game of all time is The Pool Of Radiance from SSI released in 1988 Commodore 64 version (first serious attempt at 1E AD&D rules on the computer). Digital OSR: https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Pool_of_Radiance

You've played the ten or so sequels with the same engine and the FRUA fangames?

Late to this...
3 followups.
Pool of Radiance > Azure Bonds > Secret of the Silver Blades > Pools of Darkness.
Then there was a Hilsfar which was its own thing but you could port characters into and out of to gain EXP and items.

After that was the Savage Frontiers series which was separate. 2 games.
Gateway and then Treasures of the Savage Frontiers. Uses a slightly different system.

Then there was the Neverwinter Nights MMO from AOL which uses the same engine as the Pools series.

Then there was the Spelljammer game which used yet another system.

Not to mention the two Eye of the Beholder first person dungeoncrawlers.

SSI Also did games for TSR's Buck Rogers RPG and its pretty good really. And a pair of Dragonlance games. Both use a heavily modified Pools engine. Think they also put out a pretty mediocre sidescroller for Dragonlance called Heroes of the Lance.

If recall right they also did one game for the Thunder Rift setting from Mystara.


SSI for a span was pretty much the go-to for D&D PC games.

Back on topic: And of course they moved on to new targets pretty fast.

Pat

#10
Quote from: Omega on July 09, 2022, 08:17:09 PM
Quote from: Null42 on February 13, 2021, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: consolcwby on November 03, 2020, 01:05:36 AM
*sigh* Pundit isn't wrong about the whys, but vidya gaems have been under attack from the SJWs and their media for far too long now. Also, IMHO, THE BEST D&D video game of all time is The Pool Of Radiance from SSI released in 1988 Commodore 64 version (first serious attempt at 1E AD&D rules on the computer). Digital OSR: https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Pool_of_Radiance

You've played the ten or so sequels with the same engine and the FRUA fangames?

Late to this...
3 followups.
Pool of Radiance > Azure Bonds > Secret of the Silver Blades > Pools of Darkness.
Then there was a Hilsfar which was its own thing but you could port characters into and out of to gain EXP and items.

After that was the Savage Frontiers series which was separate. 2 games.
Gateway and then Treasures of the Savage Frontiers. Uses a slightly different system.
I wouldn't say the Savage Frontiers series was a different system. There were more differences between Pools and Radiance and Pools of Darkness than between any of the other games. It was just a different storyline.

There were three Dragonlance gold box games -- Champions of Krynn, Death Knights of Krynn, and the Dark Queen of Krynn. They used the same familiar engine, but diverged a bit further at the setting level, with different races and different classes. For instance, the power of your fireball depended on the color of your robes and the moon's phase.

Never finished Buck Rogers, but IME it was significantly more divergent, with that whole skill system.

Adeptus

SJW: "The game must give the player the opportunity to create and embody a character that resembles him, without this he will not feel represented!".
White, male players: create characters similar to them.
SJW: "NO, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED! Finally start creating characters that are not similar to yourselves!".