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RandyB

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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2020, 08:47:14 AM »
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True, but the kid-friendly stuff got mocked to hell and back. If it sold I'd be surprised as hell.

They are trying, and they'll probably keep trying. Because of the lure of [BRAND] and the benefits to stock price.

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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2020, 08:54:08 PM »
They would release it after I amass a bunch of 8th edition minis and books.   But to be  honest, I am not mad or sad.  I think the trailer was well done, and the sisters have long been neglected as a faction from what I read and for the past 10 years I have followed GW as a company.  I think bringing the sisters minis and gear was a MUCH better call than female space marines.  GW has seemed smarter the past 3 years or so, and I think if the sisters sell, they will keep rolling them out.  If they are a bust, I do not think they will take a financial hit to pander.

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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2020, 09:48:26 PM »
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I think bringing the sisters minis and gear was a MUCH better call than female space marines.

Completely agree. I'd never have anything to do with female Space Marines. I am absolutely interested in adding Sisters of Battle to my collection.

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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2020, 11:51:44 AM »
9th will probably be a miss for me. I'm having more fun doing the oldhammer bit playing Rogue Trader with the current mini's, staying on the edition treadmill just isn't appealing to me.

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2020, 12:13:31 PM »
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9th will probably be a miss for me. I'm having more fun doing the oldhammer bit playing Rogue Trader with the current mini's, staying on the edition treadmill just isn't appealing to me.

I'd kill (figuratively) to play 40K 1e. Sounds like much fun!

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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2020, 11:28:57 PM »
I've only played one game so far, but it's actually been a pretty easy system to run. Other than the vehicle rules (which are a clusterfuck) everything is pretty straight forward. If one were so inclined the rule book is easy to find in pdf format. I've also found that people are pretty willing to give it a shot if you're willing to teach them and point out that they can use their existing 40k minis with it just fine.

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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2020, 04:06:02 AM »
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I'd kill (figuratively) to play 40K 1e. Sounds like much fun!

Totally worth it! We played the hell out of Rogue Trader when it came out. I've been wanting to play the pre-40k proto games that were published before Rogue Trader, but haven't had a chance.

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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2020, 06:06:22 AM »
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Totally worth it! We played the hell out of Rogue Trader when it came out. I've been wanting to play the pre-40k proto games that were published before Rogue Trader, but haven't had a chance.

You can pick up a new copy of Laserburn and most of the supplements for relatively cheap. Setting wise it's the clear predecessor with a grimdark pseudo-feudal empire ruled by a figure head emperor and High Lords of Terra, inquisitors enforce imperial doctrine, rogue traders ply the fringes and vague alien threats loom. It was written by Bryan Ansell, and the weapon list was lifted straight in to 40k, though mechanically it's a percentile system. Interestingly Laserburn was polished up a bit and published in White Dwarf as Confrontation, a precursor to Necromunda. I've played a few games of it and it's pretty fun, though I wouldn't want to do more than maybe 10 figures a side.

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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2020, 07:59:28 PM »
I jumped back in at 6th after not playing since 2nd. Have seen so many changes so fast. Not sure about getting another version AGAIN. I will wait to see, not listen so much to the hate spewed online, nor the fanboying. I really enjoy 8th, I think it as a great system.

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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2020, 08:02:47 PM »
From what I have seen in MN is that Sisters sell. I have seen a lot of their armies at my LFGS.

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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2020, 03:47:47 AM »
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From what I have seen in MN is that Sisters sell. I have seen a lot of their armies at my LFGS.

The basic Battle Sisters Squad has been sold out. I've got one and another on order, but the main GW website has listed them as "Sold out" for quite a while.

Makes me kind of regret choosing sisters if everyone's going to be playing them. I Like to see all kinds of armies being played.
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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2020, 09:01:52 AM »
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The basic Battle Sisters Squad has been sold out. I've got one and another on order, but the main GW website has listed them as "Sold out" for quite a while.

Makes me kind of regret choosing sisters if everyone's going to be playing them. I Like to see all kinds of armies being played.

They are the new hotness at the moment for a number of reasons. Give it time for the next new hotness to flare up.

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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2020, 04:21:54 PM »
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True, but the kid-friendly stuff got mocked to hell and back. If it sold I'd be surprised as hell.

My take is that the kid-friendly stuff is meant as a loss leader. They're not really marketing to kids, they're marketing to their parents, ideally ones who're already converted to the GW cult. If you've ever spent time in a GW store you'd probably seen those dads who really awkwardly try and get their kids interested in daddy's toy soldiers and this is probably part of that. What's the saying, first sniff of crack is free? I think they were literally giving out a free version of the books in stores. They get the kids interested, the parents buy them a box or several (especially if their parent is into it they'll be more than happy to) and chah-ching.

I probably won't be playing 9th though. It's shaping up to just be another 7th edition where they carry over all the bloat and imbalance from the previous edition and sell you the privilege as the best rulebook ever. People will fall away or play Age of Sigmar until 10th which will reset the clock and the paid shills will start telling us it's the best ever edition. I'm having too much fun playing other, far better written games to really care about GW at the moment although Titanicus is pretty fun (and relatively cheap) so I allow my inner GW consumer to pick up one or two things from that. Unfortunately the time I am allowed with these other games is always limited because of the cult like hold [The Brand] that is GW has over people and their willingness to always forgive them and buy their product come what may.
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« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2020, 10:06:46 PM »
First, love you avi!
Second, my local shops have an occasional box, but have you ever worked with ministomp? Great sight, great guys, I have bought a number of things from him.

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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2020, 03:27:00 PM »
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My take is that the kid-friendly stuff is meant as a loss leader. They're not really marketing to kids, they're marketing to their parents, ideally ones who're already converted to the GW cult. If you've ever spent time in a GW store you'd probably seen those dads who really awkwardly try and get their kids interested in daddy's toy soldiers and this is probably part of that. What's the saying, first sniff of crack is free? I think they were literally giving out a free version of the books in stores. They get the kids interested, the parents buy them a box or several (especially if their parent is into it they'll be more than happy to) and chah-ching.

I probably won't be playing 9th though. It's shaping up to just be another 7th edition where they carry over all the bloat and imbalance from the previous edition and sell you the privilege as the best rulebook ever. People will fall away or play Age of Sigmar until 10th which will reset the clock and the paid shills will start telling us it's the best ever edition. I'm having too much fun playing other, far better written games to really care about GW at the moment although Titanicus is pretty fun (and relatively cheap) so I allow my inner GW consumer to pick up one or two things from that. Unfortunately the time I am allowed with these other games is always limited because of the cult like hold [The Brand] that is GW has over people and their willingness to always forgive them and buy their product come what may.

  Care to share any of those better written games (At least table top war or skirmish)?  Our group plays some killteam and I and my son (I am the guy who sucked his son into playing with the toy soldiers) both have small armies, but I think you are right with the rules bloat.  I think we will stick to 8th, but I am entertaining other stuff as well.