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Author Topic: Warhammer 40K Ninth edition  (Read 2950 times)

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« on: May 29, 2020, 03:27:29 PM »


I sat out 8th, but I've pulled the trigger on getting into 9th when it comes out. I've decided on the Sisters of Battle for my new army.
I've got the 8th edition Codex en route, and just ordered my first Cannones HQ. I'm planning to assemble and paint one box worth of unit(s) per week.

Once upon a time, I would have collected an army and have it collecting dust in between maybe one or two games a year, but I'll be looking into the local game stores and clubs to find a regular group.
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2020, 03:44:35 PM »
I don't get heartburn over new editions, either. I get some of the distress - bought a rulebook <= 3 years ago, etc. But if I'm not ready to buy a new rulebook yet, I'll wait, or use a fellow player's copy.

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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2020, 07:39:43 PM »
GW's corporate wimps couldn't turn on the YouTube comments. Lame.

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2020, 07:47:40 PM »
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GW's corporate wimps couldn't turn on the YouTube comments. Lame.

Why give a platform to those who have nothing constructive to say? They'll say it anyway, elsewhere.

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2020, 08:42:15 PM »
Because it reeks of corporate cowardice. Even though the Like/Dislike ratio is hugely supportive for them, they are too gutless to risk any criticism because they have CHOSEN to not trust the huge number of Likes would translate into support. AKA, they don't trust their fans to support them. That's pathetic.

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2020, 09:18:26 PM »
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Because it reeks of corporate cowardice. Even though the Like/Dislike ratio is hugely supportive for them, they are too gutless to risk any criticism because they have CHOSEN to not trust the huge number of Likes would translate into support. AKA, they don't trust their fans to support them. That's pathetic.

Or they know, from experience, that the loudest voices will be those who will never be satisfied, who will vent their venom everywhere, and who will drown out any supporting voices. Your typical Internet Hate Mob, in other words.

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2020, 12:33:36 AM »
It's like they know me or something :o
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2020, 04:38:36 AM »
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Or they know, from experience, that the loudest voices will be those who will never be satisfied, who will vent their venom everywhere, and who will drown out any supporting voices. Your typical Internet Hate Mob, in other words.

But they went full pander bear to the wahmens! Now they're missing out on those sweet, sweet kudos from a demographic who will never touch their game!

From a 40k fan perspective, I enjoyed the video but it was weird how unbalanced it was as a promo. AKA, 40k is (in theory) a balanced wargame where any faction could win any battle. I get why they showed the Imperium triumphant (as Spess Marines are beloved), but was a bit of nutpunch in regards to playing other armies.  I play Tyranids and Space Marines (used to play Orks) so I've seen the fan concerns about the flavor biases becoming rule biases at the table.

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2020, 08:14:48 AM »
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But they went full pander bear to the wahmens! Now they're missing out on those sweet, sweet kudos from a demographic who will never touch their game!

From a 40k fan perspective, I enjoyed the video but it was weird how unbalanced it was as a promo. AKA, 40k is (in theory) a balanced wargame where any faction could win any battle. I get why they showed the Imperium triumphant (as Spess Marines are beloved), but was a bit of nutpunch in regards to playing other armies.  I play Tyranids and Space Marines (used to play Orks) so I've seen the fan concerns about the flavor biases becoming rule biases at the table.

How long have you been playing? Because the Sisters of Battle have been the redheaded stepchild since, like, forever. They've been jobbing for most of the factions for a while. Heck, speaking as a die-hard Necron player I was happy to see the Sisters get some love for a change.

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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2020, 09:28:10 AM »
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But they went full pander bear to the wahmens! Now they're missing out on those sweet, sweet kudos from a demographic who will never touch their game!

From a 40k fan perspective, I enjoyed the video but it was weird how unbalanced it was as a promo. AKA, 40k is (in theory) a balanced wargame where any faction could win any battle. I get why they showed the Imperium triumphant (as Spess Marines are beloved), but was a bit of nutpunch in regards to playing other armies.  I play Tyranids and Space Marines (used to play Orks) so I've seen the fan concerns about the flavor biases becoming rule biases at the table.

I have my own disputes with their recent handling of the 40K property. "Pandering to a different demographic" is definitely on that list. But I'd rather see the Sisters of Battle get spotlight than see female Space Marines introduced. Sometimes, you have to live with an apparent lesser evil. And isn't that what the setting is all about in the first place? :cool:

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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2020, 03:24:09 PM »
But do they pander to those-who-almost-never-pay-nor-play?
40k seemed to be the sole big franchise to remain steadfast. Did this change?

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2020, 04:09:42 PM »
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But do they pander to those-who-almost-never-pay-nor-play?
40k seemed to be the sole big franchise to remain steadfast. Did this change?

They are making some moves in that direction. Just today they announced a Warhammer Merchandise site. And they are moving toward a broader range of tone in their content, ranging from the old grimdark to kid-friendly stories.

The lure of Lifestyle Brand is harder and harder to resist.

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2020, 11:24:22 PM »
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The lure of Lifestyle Brand is harder and harder to resist.

To be fair thats because consumers are becoming increasingly brand loyal and stupid.

Why should corporations ever respect their consumers when you can do everything short of directly telling them to not purchase their products and it will sell like hot-cakes?
Im very bothered by how people WANT to get attached to a corporate IP even after its owners have demonstrated a contempt for them.

There is this sick consumeristics dependancy shown by consumers to luxury consumable brands overall. Its like people are looking for reasons to like stuff.

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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2020, 08:32:21 AM »
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To be fair thats because consumers are becoming increasingly brand loyal and stupid.

Why should corporations ever respect their consumers when you can do everything short of directly telling them to not purchase their products and it will sell like hot-cakes?
Im very bothered by how people WANT to get attached to a corporate IP even after its owners have demonstrated a contempt for them.

There is this sick consumeristics dependancy shown by consumers to luxury consumable brands overall. Its like people are looking for reasons to like stuff.

Yes.

We have no other identity that we are allowed to be proud of, so we substitute brand loyalty. Products, athletic teams, fictional properties and factions therein, etc. And [BRAND] makes big money as a result.

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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2020, 08:41:08 AM »
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They are making some moves in that direction. Just today they announced a Warhammer Merchandise site. And they are moving toward a broader range of tone in their content, ranging from the old grimdark to kid-friendly stories.

The lure of Lifestyle Brand is harder and harder to resist.

True, but the kid-friendly stuff got mocked to hell and back. If it sold I'd be surprised as hell.