Quote from: Kellri;911451It's also worth pointing out...if you want to get your real-life ass kicked - start a fight with a ladyboy. Hell, you don't even have start the fight, they'll do it for you. If I wanted to create a fighting video game set in a realistic Asian setting - a ladyboy would be an absolute necessity. It wouldn't matter how feminine the character looked, the minute any kind of argument broke out they would be pulling out a well-worn and taped-up box-cutter and heading straight for your balls. Jesus...just ask a Thai sometime who the last person they want to face in a fight is - they will inevitably say 'a ladyboy'. Kathoeys, to coin a phrase, will fuck your shit up seven ways from Sunday.

Oh defiantly iv run in to a few never had any problems mostly because im smart enough not to open my big gob and start any thing.

Ok heres a new one as some of you my know espn recently broadcast the street fighter 5 evo tournament.
Now for a short history espn has all way been some what hostel toward the esports seen and for a long time refused to carry any esports material.
And the only reason they have started to is because it was drawing so meany viewers that they could no longer ignore it.
For example some of the bigger esports tournaments are drawing viewer ship in similar ranges to NFL and MLB games.
One of the big differences it that as these have historically not been broadcast on tv there in no incidental viewer ship the people watching it have had to seek it out.
Now one of the players who plays rmika was forced to use a different costume then he had in previous matches.  
Now as we know people involved in any sort of competitive competition have been known to have there own rituals for luck. As some one who plays video games competitively i can honestly admit i can happen here to after all i know i have mine.
As you can see in the video he is visibly bothered by something i cant say what it is for sure but it brings the entire tournament under scrutiny.
Even if it wasn't the costume selection it self what kind of brow beating did they give him???
And then you have to ask did this in some way affect the out come of the match???  
For that matter would they tell an NFL team that they cant have a player where that uniform its to sexy?
Or put there cheerleaders out because they are to sexy?
I doubt it.
Its also worth remembering that the game is rated T for teen meaning that its content is considered safe for thoughts 13 and up by the esrb.
And thats not including all the other censorship that has gone on since the games release.
[video=youtube;UsqV2OThd8w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsqV2OThd8w[/youtube]

Ok its been a while since i posted an up date in this thread and i dont have a lot of time iv got more to post then this about overwatch but this takes the cake and needs to be seen .

Quote from: kosmos1214;911523Ok heres a new one as some of you my know espn recently broadcast the street fighter 5 evo tournament.
Now for a short history espn has all way been some what hostel toward the esports seen and for a long time refused to carry any esports material.
And the only reason they have started to is because it was drawing so meany viewers that they could no longer ignore it.
For example some of the bigger esports tournaments are drawing viewer ship in similar ranges to NFL and MLB games.
One of the big differences it that as these have historically not been broadcast on tv there in no incidental viewer ship the people watching it have had to seek it out.
Now one of the players who plays rmika was forced to use a different costume then he had in previous matches.  
Now as we know people involved in any sort of competitive competition have been known to have there own rituals for luck. As some one who plays video games competitively i can honestly admit i can happen here to after all i know i have mine.
As you can see in the video he is visibly bothered by something i cant say what it is for sure but it brings the entire tournament under scrutiny.
Even if it wasn't the costume selection it self what kind of brow beating did they give him???
And then you have to ask did this in some way affect the out come of the match???  
For that matter would they tell an NFL team that they cant have a player where that uniform its to sexy?
Or put there cheerleaders out because they are to sexy?
I doubt it.
Its also worth remembering that the game is rated T for teen meaning that its content is considered safe for thoughts 13 and up by the esrb.
And thats not including all the other censorship that has gone on since the games release.
[video=youtube;UsqV2OThd8w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsqV2OThd8w[/youtube]

I'm unclear what you are defending here. (For that matter, I'm unclear what the commentator is defending here). You've got ridiculous misogynistic art / animations which have been toned down....unequally(?).

Are [you] upset that they have been toned down, or that they have been toned down badly?

I've never understood how a suggestive cartoon image of a gorgeous woman implies hatred of women. Or is misogynist another co-opted word, meaning 'anything ugly women don't like?'

Quote from: AaronBrown99;915045I've never understood how a suggestive cartoon image of a gorgeous woman implies hatred of women. Or is misogynist another co-opted word, meaning 'anything ugly women don't like?'

I'm not sure this deserves a sensible answer, but I'll try.

As a red-blooded male, I'm quite happy to see awesome and sexy depictions of women, even in cartoon form.

Even in a fighting game.

But these images aren't suggestive, they are caricatures. They are perverted depictions of women, not celebration of the female form.

That's why it's hateful. And as a male gamer it's frustrating to me that it's 2016 and we still can't get beyond this bullshit.

And you didn't answer my question.

Quote from: Motorskills;915106They are perverted depictions of women, not celebration of the female form.

In your opinion.

You want to see a perverted depiction of women that indicates true hatefulness?  Check out pretty much any Picasso.  That's what hatred of women looks like--distorted monstrosities.

If you want to "get beyond" exaggerated sensuality found in video games marketed to young men who love looking at pretty girls, you better get back to Candy Crush.  Or, make your own game and stop your pearl-clutching virtue signaling.

And to answer your question, If I had purchased the game I'd be pissed that they had been toned down at all.  Vive la difference!

My local street artist would be interested to know that his caricatures are hateful.

Quote from: One Horse Town;915125My local street artist would be interested to know that his caricatures are hateful.

So would many of the woman artists I've know.

Or is this a 'only bad when men do it' thing?

Quote from: Warboss Squee;915138So would many of the woman artists I've know.

Or is this a 'only bad when men do it' thing?

No, there was plenty of shit talked about Bayonetta, despite her design having been made by a woman.

It's just a new manifestation of the old "I have the ability to respect opinions that differ from my own, but these opinions are different; they cross a (conveniently undefined) line to the point where the only conscionable response is to attack them" bullshit.

Quote from: One Horse Town;915125My local street artist would be interested to know that his caricatures are hateful.

Caricatures are not inherently hateful, of course not. Hell, one can buy caricatures of oneself if one wants.


And it's not (simply) a matter of artistic license, it's a matter of intent. And that's what terrible.

Quote from: Motorskills;915188Caricatures are not inherently hateful, of course not. Hell, one can buy caricatures of oneself if one wants.


And it's not (simply) a matter of artistic license, it's a matter of intent. And that's what terrible.

Intending to exaggerate the sensuality of a character to be more attractive to your target market is not terrible.  It's smart.

Of course you can read people's minds so you know their intent is HATEFUL anyway, right?

Quote from: AaronBrown99;915192Intending to exaggerate the sensuality of a character to be more attractive to your target market is not terrible.  It's smart.

Of course you can read people's minds so you know their intent is HATEFUL anyway, right?

If I drive 100mph past a kid's school, so I can deliver beer to my mates on time, my behaviour is hateful, even if my audience loves the end product.

Quote from: Motorskills;915195If I drive 100mph past a kid's school, so I can deliver beer to my mates on time, my behaviour is hateful, even if my audience loves the end product.

So you're reduced to "WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!"

The train is fine.

Quote from: AaronBrown99;915210So you're reduced to "WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!"

The train is fine.

Rosa Parks would have been proud of you, standing up for freedom like that. The rest of us can pack up and go home!