Quote from: Kuroth;532798You've had plenty of time to read it by now.  What do you think of it Ghost Whistler?

It's threads like those that make you smile and say "I love to help people!", don't they?

Quote from: Rincewind1;532820It's threads like those that make you smile and say "I love to help people!", don't they?

those...what?

threads like what?

Personally, like a lot of "Storygames", TSoY walks the line, it's an RPG with very strong metagame elements there for the purpose of furthering a story by giving players Narrative control, ie.  a Narrative RPG, which while may include several trappings of a traditional RPG is not a traditional RPG.

Based on Pundit's strict definition of RPGs, namely a game with a primary focus of roleplay through world emulation and character immersion, TSoY belongs in Other Games.

Quote from: Kuroth;532807These questions have been answered.  Rincewind, Peregin, 1of3 and I have given you a fair amount of input.  I want to hear what you think.

about what?

Quote from: CRKrueger;532825Personally, like a lot of "Storygames", TSoY walks the line, it's an RPG with very strong metagame elements there for the purpose of furthering a story by giving players Narrative control, ie.  a Narrative RPG, which while may include several trappings of a traditional RPG is not a traditional RPG.

Based on Pundit's strict definition of RPGs, namely a game with a primary focus of roleplay through world emulation and character immersion, TSoY belongs in Other Games.

But there is no strict definition. That's the problem. Aside from the inanity of making us post in another forum (apparently in the name of clarity), the only standard that can be applied is that dictated by his own fancy. How on earth am I meant to know whether this game is a 'story game' or an rpg according to what he decides if he doesn't explain? I'm not a mind reader. Every rpg is a narrative game: players use words to create a communal scene at any given time. That's the whole point of the board being the players' imaginations. Really this is just beyond petulant.

And this thread was never about reviewing the game nor people's opinions on it as a whole.

Quote from: Rincewind1;532615The ability pools work, but they can be easily abused by a powergaming player, because the rules advice you to "provide means of refreshing them as soon as players desire to", which basically means that any form of resource management is thrown out of the window if you play by the rules. The Ability Pools themselves and how they work is not too bad - but you need to toss that "Do not change the rules OR ELSE" out of the window, and apply common sense to the idea of Downtime.

The skills as written are also an interesting take (especially on the idea of skills - by - culture - same that again, the provided setting's pages are only useful as bear stuffing), but it needs some logic and common sense applied, because otherwise, going by the rules themselves, a deadly duelist won't be able to do jack against a common soldier.

Quote from: PeregrinPowergaming isn't an issue unless you make it an issue, like any other game ever. Always best to play in the spirit of the rules/intent of the designer.

There. What you asked for so nicely. And since you behaved like such an adult and a man worthy of help, I even bolded the necessary parts.

And now I'm off to get a drink. Stop being a dolt, GW, and instead, read the fucking help given to you, rather then complain "WAAAAAAH REVIEWS HOW DARE THEY!!!!1". I didn't plan a bloody review, it just happened on it's own.

Quote from: Rincewind1;532871There. What you asked for so nicely. And since you behaved like such an adult and a man worthy of help, I even bolded the necessary parts.

And now I'm off to get a drink. Stop being a dolt, GW, and instead, read the fucking help given to you, rather then complain "WAAAAAAH REVIEWS HOW DARE THEY!!!!1". I didn't plan a bloody review, it just happened on it's own.

Extraordinary. Just...extraordinary.

Feel free to come back when you've cleared the sand out your vagina.

A simple "thank you" would had sufficed.

Quote from: CRKrueger;532825Based on Pundit's strict definition of RPGs, namely a game with a primary focus of roleplay through world emulation and character immersion, TSoY belongs in Other Games.

How on earth does this game not have world emulation and character immersion? Do you really think it's creators would say it doesn't?

This thread has gone through the looking glass and right up the anus of weird.

Quote from: Rincewind1;532876A simple "thank you" would had sufficed.

YOur attitude is unbelievable. You demand gratitude while simultaneously insulting me. You act as if your opinion is the only and true answer to the question I asked, while simultaneously criticising the tone of the question.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;532883YOur attitude is unbelievable. You demand gratitude while simultaneously insulting me. You act as if your opinion is the only and true answer to the question I asked, while simultaneously criticising the tone of the question.

Physician, heal thyself.

Quote from: Ghost WhistlerLast edited by Ghost Whistler; Yesterday at 02:06 PM. Reason: i'm supposed to accomodate people that can't answer the question anyway

Quote from: Ghost WhistlerTo what end? The question is clearly directed at people who know the game.

By all means, chuck your toys out the pram. Behave just like the other site.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler (being oh so smart)The use of acronym is deliberate: if you aren't familiar with the game then you aren't going to be able to answer it.

Quote from: Ghost WhistlerWhat is fucking wrong with you? I've already answered this question. The thread doesn't need editing. It isn't a thread for people to answer if they don't know the fucking game! How is that not clear to you? You want to troll, go somewhere else and do it.

Quote from: Ghost WhistlerYou've not read the original post have you.

Wonderful. How does that answer the question?

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;532874Extraordinary. Just...extraordinary.

Feel free to come back when you've cleared the sand out your vagina.

Don't be shocked when next time people will not lift a finger to help you.

I think you need to look up the word 'context'.

Threads are a bit like programming computers. You only get out what you put in.

QuoteIs this a fun system? Does it work? Is it interesting? Or is it a bit pointless?

I´ve run TSOY a couple of times. If your questions are only if the ability pools work...

Yes, they do, but I wouldn´t say they are by themselves better than other systems. They become awesome when you connect ability pools with secrets (pay to activate or use your powers), or the pool refreshing mechanics, which are really good for roleplaying, revealing things about your characters, etc.
So I´d say that, by themselves, they aren´t better or worse.

Can they be abused? I guess they can. In TSOY in particular, a powergamer won´t get a lot of advantage, since (unless secrets involved) you can only spend 1 point per roll.
Speaking of refreshment scenes, they are really good, but if you want to stimulate the pool management and buying pool points with advancements, I´d be rather strict with refreshment scenes: only allow them when it makes sense in the session or lets us know something valuable abouth the character/s involved.

I´ll talk a little about Lady Blackbird, a game heavily influenced by TSoY. It has only one general pool, the same for every PC, and it has also refreshment scenes to set it back to 7 pts. When I ran it, I set a limit to those scenes: only one per session, unless it really makes sense, and it worked fine.
In LB, though, the pools have a lot of power (you can spend as many p. points on a roll as you wish), so perhaps it was more necessary to set a limit.

hmmm, half the thread´s filled up with insults and posts by people who don´t know much about the game, and arguments not very related to the topic. I guess there are better forums to have a good and adult discussion.

Quote from: One Horse Town;532920Threads are a bit like programming computers.

I see what you did there.