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Author Topic: "Sorceror": What's the big deal?  (Read 2940 times)

vytzka

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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2012, 03:15:46 PM »
Quote from: LePete;611949
A new edition is about to be Kickstarted: Preview Here.


While I'm not the target audience (and rpg.net crowd is going to appreciate the demon slut), I really wish other RPG kickstarters learned a thing or two from this about setting rewards.

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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2012, 03:20:45 PM »
Wow, I didn't know it was Ron "who made "self-published" a badge of pride for RPG publishing."
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2012, 03:29:18 PM »
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Wow, I didn't know it was Ron "who made "self-published" a badge of pride for RPG publishing."


That was inbetween his discovering Penicillin and splitting the atom.

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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2012, 04:02:22 PM »
Quote from: LePete;611949
A new edition is about to be Kickstarted: Preview Here.


I can't even listen to the man talking for 4:30 minutes without rolling my eyes.

What a fucking bore.

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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2012, 04:40:47 PM »
Quote from: LePete;611949
A new edition is about to be Kickstarted: Preview Here.


There should be a new edition of this game, if only to get rid of what has to be one of the ugliest book covers in RPGs.  I mean, look at this thing: http://adept-press.com/wordpress/wp-content/media/sorc_cover2.jpg

It's about as ugly as this: http://a4.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Publication/be/61/5e/mzi.eytnksow.225x225-75.jpg

COINCIDENCE?

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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2012, 05:20:55 PM »
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There should be a new edition of this game, if only to get rid of what has to be one of the ugliest book covers in RPGs.  I mean, look at this thing: http://adept-press.com/wordpress/wp-content/media/sorc_cover2.jpg

It's about as ugly as this: http://a4.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Publication/be/61/5e/mzi.eytnksow.225x225-75.jpg

COINCIDENCE?

No, because Pundit had nothing to do with the cover of FtA!GN! whatsoever. I did it myself, including the painting, with no input from him. Any ugliness you see is from me, and I have no part in this stupid war. I just liked the game and offered to publish it.

I also did all the interior illos, the layout, and the editing. If you have any issues with those, please lay them at my door as well, not Pundit's.

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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2012, 05:22:42 PM »
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No, because Pundit had nothing to do with the cover of FtA!GN! whatsoever. I did it myself, including the painting, with no input from him. Any ugliness you see is from me, and I have no part in this stupid war. I just liked the game and offered to publish it.

-clash

For the record, I REALLY like that painting, Clash, and I like your art in general. And yes, I do fucking care what you play, what you think about RPGs, and what you create for us to play, Compadre. ;)

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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2012, 05:24:01 PM »
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No, because Pundit had nothing to do with the cover of FtA!GN! whatsoever. I did it myself, including the painting, with no input from him. Any ugliness you see is from me, and I have no part in this stupid war. I just liked the game and offered to publish it.

I also did all the interior illos, the layout, and the editing. If you have any issues with those, please lay them at my door as well, not Pundit's.

-clash


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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2012, 05:28:39 PM »
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There's no neutrality in the war on swine, pick a side motherfucker.

:D


Then shoot me. I have good friends, people I like and respect, on both 'sides', as well as in the neglected middle. If you are going to needle Pundit, needle him for something he actually did or said. That's fine. This one is my responsibility, though.

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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2012, 05:29:41 PM »
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Then shoot me. I have good friends, people I like and respect, on both 'sides', as well as in the neglected middle. If you are going to needle Pundit, needle him for something he actually did or said. That's fine. This one is my responsibility, though.

-clash


Dude, I'm joking
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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2012, 05:30:44 PM »
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No, because Pundit had nothing to do with the cover of FtA!GN! whatsoever. I did it myself, including the painting, with no input from him. Any ugliness you see is from me, and I have no part in this stupid war. I just liked the game and offered to publish it.

I also did all the interior illos, the layout, and the editing. If you have any issues with those, please lay them at my door as well, not Pundit's.

-clash


...it was a joke, my man.

I also don't care about the RPG/Storygame Maginot line either.

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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2012, 05:41:17 PM »
Quote from: Benoist;612066
For the record, I REALLY like that painting, Clash, and I like your art in general. And yes, I do fucking care what you play, what you think about RPGs, and what you create for us to play, Compadre. ;)


Thanks, Benoist! I don't mind criticism of my work at all - and criticism of the "That looks ugly" sort is just descriptive of preference, not particularly constructive. The other day, Brad Murray pointed out some flaws in a painting I did for Volant, and it was great, because he was absolutely correct, and I was able to fix the problems. I wish all the criticism I get was that productive! :D

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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2012, 05:47:00 PM »
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Not every poster agrees with the categorization of subforums here, but this is the one game everybody knows pundit would classify as a storygame, non rpg. It is his forum and he sets the rules for how its organized. You had to know it would get moved when you started the thread. If you want to debate labels about storygames, open a thread about it in the help desk (or participate in the thread on the forge in pundit's subforum).


Actually, I had no idea that he'd move it--from what I'd seen the Pundit's douchery was confined to his posts, not to the way that he runs the board. So this board is just a tool for him to spew his views and fuck around with people who disagree? So how is he different from Edwards and the rpg.net mods he lambastes, frequently and with incredibly venomous language?

So I guess if someone introduced a post about OD&D it'd get moved to this forum too? After all, the cover of the game clearly states that it's a wargame. And everyone knows that you can't roleplay in 4e, so any threads about belong in this forum too, right? And god knows you can't have roleplaying without dice, so any discussion of Amber or Olympus belongs here too, right? I mean, why should my stupid bullshit pettiness be any less important and consequential than RPGPundit's?

That's just fucking pathetic. RPGPundit is no better than Ron Edwards. Compare the language they use. Compare their self-importance. Compare their petty douchery.

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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2012, 05:53:03 PM »
Haven't heard any of that before.

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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2012, 05:55:33 PM »
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Dude, I'm joking


I know you were joking, but the joke wasn't hitting the intended target this time. It would be like needling Ron Edwards for corruption in the UN - there is no actual responsibility or control there. As for your disliking the cover I did, it doesn't bother me in the least. That - like whether or not you prefer story oriented goals and tools in your roleplaying - is purely a matter of individual taste, and the only way not to offend someone else's taste is to be utterly inoffensive and bland. :D

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