Quote from: Tommy Brownell;569415I'm not Allen, buuuuut: https://www.facebook.com/MarvelHeroicRoleplaying

Ah excellent. Thanks Tommy. And thanks guys for the breakdown of the dice pool. It's useful.

Quote from: Broken-Serenity;569487Unless he has the .pdf or imported a copy ghost whistler probabyl hasnt played the game since it's not officially available for sale in the UK at this time(licencing issues with marvels graphic novels distributor i think).

It does sound like a fun game though so once the annihilation books are out(i prefer cosmic marvel to the regular stuff) i may grab the .pdf's and give it a read.

It was for sale in the UK about a month after it came out in the states.

I bought it months ago from the book depository in the UK, and it was up for a short time on Amazon. I paid 9 quid, delivered, which was a bargain.

Now it seems the only place you can get it is from America, so they've made a bit of a mess of things with regards 'getting it out there'.

I suspect it will come back on sale at some point, once they've banged the price up on all the books. I guess someone at Disney took a look, asked 'what are we making on this?' and sprayed coffee all over the desk before throwing stuff about and calling for a secretary to get someone on the phone.

It's not written that well. Starts off ok but by page 30 or so you're head scratching. One of those games where watching others play, and joining in, is the best way to learn. I was disappointed, but plenty of others seem to love the game.

According to an email i recieved from the Book depository a couple of months  ago they used the usual supply routes they use for Manga books to get limited supplies after demand proved high and alliance didnt seem to get stock(this is also why no rpg stockist got supplies), but the distributors they use got asked not to supply them with more stock once marvel/disney found out(or more likely marvel/disney threatened to stop giving them graphic novels for import) hense why it's now unavailable outside the US/Canada except by getting a buddy to buy it then send it over for you or via pdf.  
My guess would be marvel want it distributed by their Uk graphic collections partner Panini Publishing but either they arent interested at the moment(since there no chance of it being sold in the same places as the collected editions like WHSmith) or marvel has'nt actually asked them to yet(probably dont see a point based on sales projections or something) either way as you mentioned there is currently no way to get it over here besides the 2 i mentioned above.

I have run and played MHR some and I like it. Its probably my favourite Supers RPG as it actually creates the vibe I get reading comics, but that may be damning with faint praise as I don't like Supers RPGs a whole lot Overall, its a little too heavy for me to be entirely comfortable with, but only by a slim margin.

As for all this RPG v storygame stupidity, given no one agrees the point of distinction the activity is meaningless. What I can say is that as a player in MHR, I play like I would in most RPGs I have played in with a little more direct control over the story than usual. As a Watcher, I play like a GM in most RPGs I have run. I have certainly played RPGs with a much larger disconnect between player and PC and focus on story building than MHR.

If this had been released in the UK when it first came out (it certainly wasn't on any of Esdevium's release sheets nor was it on the shelves, more importantly) I would have picked it up. That moment has passed and given that it lacks clarity (as is obvious from the sheer weight of confusion the rules have received across the interspace) and has no proper chargen system I don't think it's for me. The idea of publishing supplemental material via events is not one I'm adversely opposed to, but it doesn't sit right with me. It's still an rpg though and most of these issues were covered in the thread it received months ago in the rpg forum.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;569691If this had been released in the UK when it first came out (it certainly wasn't on any of Esdevium's release sheets nor was it on the shelves, more importantly) I would have picked it up. That moment has passed and given that it lacks clarity (as is obvious from the sheer weight of confusion the rules have received across the interspace) and has no proper chargen system I don't think it's for me. The idea of publishing supplemental material via events is not one I'm adversely opposed to, but it doesn't sit right with me.

Yeah. It does some things, but they're not things I am interested in. My curiosity has been sated by the reports I've read.

On the other hand, the "events" idea would be great for bigger comic book fans. "You've read it... now play it, with MHR:Blahpocalypse edition!". It's not dissimilar to the way Heroclix handles the properties. It's almost a pity that the game isn't produced in-house by Marvel, who could probably get it out faster (Having closer access to the source materials for each event line).

The disconnect between character actions in-fiction and dice mechanics out of the fiction is a killer for me. It's what I didn't like about The Pool or about Dogs in the Vineyard.

This is in the wrong forum by the way, GW's right about that. If this isn't an rpg I'm fucked if I know what is.

Quote from: D-503;569699The disconnect between character actions in-fiction and dice mechanics out of the fiction is a killer for me. It's what I didn't like about The Pool or about Dogs in the Vineyard.

This is in the wrong forum by the way, GW's right about that. If this isn't an rpg I'm fucked if I know what is.

Does the game use character sheets?

Quote from: Declan MacManus;569828Does the game use character sheets?

Yes.

Quote from: Skywalker;569841Yes.

Then it's a roleplaying game.

Quote from: Declan MacManus;569828Does the game use character sheets?

Quote from: Skywalker;569841Yes.

Quote from: Declan MacManus;569949Then it's a roleplaying game.

Milton Bradley's HeroQuest has character sheets. It's thus a role playing game, by this yard stick.

Quote from: Benoist;569963Milton Bradley's HeroQuest has character sheets. It's thus a role playing game, by this yard stick.

It also has a GM.

Quote from: Tommy Brownell;569964It also has a GM.

Correct.

Quote from: Benoist;569963Milton Bradley's HeroQuest has character sheets. It's thus a role playing game, by this yard stick.

It's descendent, Warhammer Quest, featured a book called the "roleplaying book". Which had a chapter on GM-ran games and providing RPG-esque challenges, including a hacked-together resolution system. And it had quite extensive tables for events that could occur in towns, villages and cities.

Sometimes it's an RPG... and sometimes it isn't.

Quote from: Benoist;569963Milton Bradley's HeroQuest has character sheets. It's thus a role playing game, by this yard stick.

is that a problem? DnD endorses miniatures and maps to put them on. Deadlands uses playing cards, does that make it Pokergaming?