Quote from: RPGPundit;388431This game clearly not being an RPG as such, I'm moving this thread over to other games, where Story-game discussion belongs.

RPGPundit

Good to see normal service being resumed. It's your playground, you set the rules.

Still, 99.9% of the gaming population still think it's an RPG, so I guess you are in a distinct minority. As I said, though, it's your playground.

Cheers
Malcolm

I think it's the time of year Malcolm. The site gets a little quiet so Pundit decides to garner some attention and stoke up some controversy to try and increase traffic.

On topic, the Cold War setting intrigues me more at this point because I recently read The Good German, but I've had a look at Hot War too. Anyway, I've just bought the Hot/Cold War joint pack, cheers.

Edit: Where did the post I was replying go to? I'll assume it was Malcom deleting it rather than anyone else.

Quote from: Joshua Ford;388467I think it's the time of year Malcolm. The site gets a little quiet so Pundit decides to garner some attention and stoke up some controversy to try and increase traffic.

On topic, the Cold War setting intrigues me more at this point because I recently read The Good German, but I've had a look at Hot War too. Anyway, I've just bought the Hot/Cold War joint pack, cheers.

Edit: Where did the post I was replying go to? I'll assume it was Malcom deleting it rather than anyone else.

Yeah, I felt my response to Pundit was petty and non-productive, and risked derailing an otherwise very engaging thread. So, sorry for the confusion!

I've only ever seen the film version of The Good German, but enjoyed it a lot. It's certainly a film that provides some great inspiration for Cold City. Would you recommend reading the book as well?

And thanks for buying the books. I hope you enjoy them.

Cheers
Malcolm

I'm confused, I'm not sure if I'd call what I've heard of it a "story game", ah well, I'll read it. I'm willing to be open minded about games. No matter where they come from--unless the author calls me dirty names or something.


Let me read it and I'll post what I think later.

I thought your post was remarkably even-tempered. Especially as the pettiness was not coming from you. Anyway, I'll not derail anymore, do not feed the troll, etc.

To the Good German then. I'd read the book personally - you get a much better flavour for 1945 and there's an important character  completely missing who might well suit Cold City given her personal situation and motivations. The book took a while to get into, but notwithstanding the charms of Cate, I much preferred it to the film. Characters in general felt richer. Funnily enough, I finished reading it and thought it would be a good setting as it was. Lots of conflicting motivations and the opportunity to mix pcs from from week to the next.

I also recently noted that you can explore the Viennese sewers on 3rd Man tours again and have seen that Berlin's sewers are suitably labyrinthine...

Pundits just a hypocrite. Being a dick because he can be. We will just ignore that Gnome Murdered, and Amber fill the shoes of story/forgie games better than Hot/Cold War.

Now that being said I don't personally care for the mechanics of the game. But man it is a fantastic setting. The detail and flavor the book conveys is as the thread topic says "Awesome". The book (Cold or Hot for that matter) is worth buying for the setting alone.

Quote from: Ronin;388496Pundits just a hypocrite. Being a dick because he can be. We will just ignore that Gnome Murdered, and Amber fill the shoes of story/forgie games better than Hot/Cold War.

Now that being said I don't personally care for the mechanics of the game. But man it is a fantastic setting. The detail and flavor the book conveys is as the thread topic says "Awesome". The book (Cold or Hot for that matter) is worth buying for the setting alone.

The setting does sound really neat.  I'll have to recommend it to one of our GM's and see if they are interested in running it.  I would jump at the chance to play a game of it.

If you like the Hot War setting check out Cold War. I personally like it more. But they are both really great settings. If I were to run them I think I would convert them to Unisystem (AFMBE), or maybe Savage Worlds. But reguardless of what system you use (Original or converted) they are full of possibility and awesome.

wrong forum!

Quote from: Joshua Ford;388485To the Good German then. I'd read the book personally - you get a much better flavour for 1945 and there's an important character  completely missing who might well suit Cold City given her personal situation and motivations.

I also recently noted that you can explore the Viennese sewers on 3rd Man tours again and have seen that Berlin's sewers are suitably labyrinthine...

Great, thanks for the recommendation. I'm sure one of the many second hand bookshops here in Edinburgh will have a copy. Gives me an excuse for going and rooting around.

I've never yet made it to Vienna, but would love to do a Third Man tour if I managed to get there. Great film.

Quote from: RoninNow that being said I don't personally care for the mechanics of the game. But man it is a fantastic setting. The detail and flavor the book conveys is as the thread topic says "Awesome". The book (Cold or Hot for that matter) is worth buying for the setting alone.

I'm a big fan of engaging settings myself, hence the stuff int he books. It's the part of games design that's really fun for me. I'm very pleased that you think the books are worth buying just for the setting, that really makes me smile. So, thanks!

Quote from: RoninIf you like the Hot War setting check out Cold War. I personally like it more. But they are both really great settings. If I were to run them I think I would convert them to Unisystem (AFMBE), or maybe Savage Worlds. But reguardless of what system you use (Original or converted) they are full of possibility and awesome.

Just one small correction: It's Cold City, not Cold War. It's a common mistake. I knew that making the titles thematically similar would come back to bite me in the ass!

Are there particular parts of the settings that you found really engaging? I'm always fascinated to find out what bits people find really fun.

Cheers
Malcolm

Hot War is cool.

But Cold City is genius. :cool: (a shame it doesnt have the same visual treatment of Hot War)

Quote from: Ronin;388496The book (Cold or Hot for that matter) is worth buying for the setting alone.

Hells yeah!

Malcolm, you should consider talking with Chaosium about doing a CoC-Cold City setting book...and a Hot War one too.   CoC players would snatch that book up like free pizza at game session.

It would be a natural crossover.

Quote from: Malcolm Craig;388555Just one small correction: It's Cold City, not Cold War. It's a common mistake. I knew that making the titles thematically similar would come back to bite me in the ass!

Mental slip, I knew better.:duh:

Quote from: Malcolm Craig;388555Are there particular parts of the settings that you found really engaging? I'm always fascinated to find out what bits people find really fun.

Cheers
Malcolm

As to what I liked? (I'll focus on Hot War) It has the perfect balance between a full description and enough leaway for the GM to make it their own. Complete without being overbearing or a massive tome. Chapter 2 by itself is made of gold. The poster/advert illustrations through out the book really do illustrate the world you are presenting. They match very well.

Quote from: Spinachcat;388775Hells yeah!

Malcolm, you should consider talking with Chaosium about doing a CoC-Cold City setting book...and a Hot War one too.   CoC players would snatch that book up like free pizza at game session.

It would be a natural crossover.

I can totally get behind that idea.

Quote from: Spinachcat;388775Hells yeah!

Malcolm, you should consider talking with Chaosium about doing a CoC-Cold City setting book...and a Hot War one too.   CoC players would snatch that book up like free pizza at game session.

It would be a natural crossover.

Great idea!