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Horus Heresy affirms that only males can be Space Marines.

Started by Ratman_tf, July 06, 2022, 04:30:30 AM

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Ratman_tf

July 06, 2022, 04:30:30 AM
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Ghostmaker

#1
July 06, 2022, 08:10:02 AM
And nobody cared except for the usual idpol jagoffs.

Jeebus. Even the most hardcore dudebro 40k fans agreed the Sisters of Battle got treated badly and were happy they got a chance to shine in the latest edition.

But having a viable fem-heavy faction just isn't enough for the wokeists. Nothing is ever enough.

BoxCrayonTales

#2
July 06, 2022, 09:59:16 AM
I think an easy way to address this is to say that women who survive the process become indistinguishable from those born male. Because it's more efficient to use a single template. So any of the space marine models could be women, but you'd never be able to tell.

Or you could switch to One Page Rules Grimdark Future, which has the Battle Sisters army. They're female space marines created by the Goddess-Queen in response to the God-King disallowing women from serving. (This reads like a satire of fandom debates btw.) https://onepagerules.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_Sisters

HappyDaze

#3
July 06, 2022, 10:30:35 AM
The more important thing to remember is that Squats were still around during thr HH, right? Do they get a mention?

BoxCrayonTales

#4
July 06, 2022, 02:29:42 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on July 06, 2022, 10:30:35 AM
The more important thing to remember is that Squats were still around during thr HH, right? Do they get a mention?
They got brought back as "Leagues of Votaan" in modern 40k

Ghostmaker

#5
July 06, 2022, 03:38:06 PM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on July 06, 2022, 02:29:42 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on July 06, 2022, 10:30:35 AM
The more important thing to remember is that Squats were still around during thr HH, right? Do they get a mention?
They got brought back as "Leagues of Votaan" in modern 40k
Ironically, the announcement trailer dropped on April 1st. GW realized it, and hurriedly cranked out another to assure the fanbase that no, it wasn't a joke.

RandyB

#6
July 06, 2022, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on July 06, 2022, 08:10:02 AM
And nobody cared except for the usual idpol jagoffs.

Jeebus. Even the most hardcore dudebro 40k fans agreed the Sisters of Battle got treated badly and were happy they got a chance to shine in the latest edition.

But having a viable fem-heavy faction just isn't enough for the wokeists. Nothing is ever enough.

Fem-heavy isn't the goal. Eliminating male-only is the intermediate goal. Eliminating male is the ultimate goal.

HappyDaze

#7
July 06, 2022, 05:39:13 PM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on July 06, 2022, 02:29:42 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on July 06, 2022, 10:30:35 AM
The more important thing to remember is that Squats were still around during thr HH, right? Do they get a mention?
They got brought back as "Leagues of Votaan" in modern 40k
Damn, really? I didn't know that and I thought they were gone for good.

Battlemaster

#8
July 06, 2022, 10:25:19 PM
I've always been against female space marines as it bas always been clear the emperor used some  of his dna to create the primarchs, and the primarch dna was used to create the marines.

Anyway,  SoBs have powers even marines don't have. They can commit miracles of faith ,when they get killed they get miracle points that make the survirors more effective.

But yes, the wokefems have been told they can't have female space marines so they will raise  the rainbow banners and wage shrieking screaming war until they get what they want. They are determined to force their way on gamers and wonder why they are hated.

I say no female marines, ever.
Fuck the fascist right and the fascist left.

David Johansen

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July 07, 2022, 12:32:21 AM
If I ever get back into 40k I'll play Sisters of Silence because fuck psychers.  Also, weird grav fish transport thing.
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Battlemaster

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July 07, 2022, 12:47:31 AM
Quiet your fool! You want the radfems bitching about good women being portrayed as silent and therefore perpetuating a sexists image of women?  Honestly I know about the sos and am amazed feminist groups have bit attacked gw over them yet.
Fuck the fascist right and the fascist left.

HappyDaze

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July 07, 2022, 01:50:57 AM
Quote from: Battlemaster on July 06, 2022, 10:25:19 PM
I've always been against female space marines as it bas always been clear the emperor used some  of his dna to create the primarchs, and the primarch dna was used to create the marines.
You do know that females are created with DNA from both of their (biological) parents, including that of a male, right?

Primarchs are not clones of the Emperor, and Astartes are not clones of their Primarchs. They carry some genetic legacy, but so too do a father's daughters.

Spinachcat

#12
July 07, 2022, 04:30:24 AM
Sisters of Battle have big boobies.

Even in Mordheim.

That is all.

Battlemaster

#13
July 07, 2022, 07:14:44 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on July 07, 2022, 01:50:57 AM
Quote from: Battlemaster on July 06, 2022, 10:25:19 PM
I've always been against female space marines as it bas always been clear the emperor used some  of his dna to create the primarchs, and the primarch dna was used to create the marines.
You do know that females are created with DNA from both of their (biological) parents, including that of a male, right?

Primarchs are not clones of the Emperor, and Astartes are not clones of their Primarchs. They carry some genetic legacy, but so too do a father's daughters.

I did not say primarchs were clones of the emperor,  the emp used his Dna as a basis for creating them abd made esch one unique. The marines are nor clones of primarchs but use his dna as a basis for their gene seed.

As tonwhatecer you were trying to say about women, it was too senseless to understand.
Fuck the fascist right and the fascist left.

Ghostmaker

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July 07, 2022, 08:08:46 AM
Quote from: Battlemaster on July 07, 2022, 12:47:31 AM
Quiet your fool! You want the radfems bitching about good women being portrayed as silent and therefore perpetuating a sexists image of women?  Honestly I know about the sos and am amazed feminist groups have bit attacked gw over them yet.
Okay, that was pretty fucking funny. Well played.
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