Have you read and/or played Dogs in the Vineyard?

Aos · December 11, 2010, 11:31:03 AM

Everyone who has not read this game will be rounded up for resettlement.

Cole · December 11, 2010, 11:37:06 AM

Quote from: Elliot Wilen;425111If there's a whiff of persecution here it's pretty hard to point to who's being persecuted. The background is that DitV has often been criticized here, for example in the recent thread about adding some DitV-derived mechanics in D&D. That thread got notice over on story-games, leading to comments claiming that the people who criticized or rejected DitV-style mechanics probably didn't really know the game.

Mr. Dancey's original assertion was,

Quote from: RSDancey;420627"I wouldn't be Ryan Dancey if I didn't say something outrageous and quotable. So I'll begin with this:

If all you did was [...] substituted Dogs in the Vineyard's rules for D&D, most D&D games would have an immediate improvement in the quality of the experience from the perspective of most of the players."

I think there is little grounds to suggest 'persecution' in refuting, or insisting on supporting information for, such a tendentious statement.

Nor in declining to agree that a certain game system is broadly superior. Or having any other preference of game.

For my part I have no real objection to people playing DitV, or a D&D/DitV hybrid.

two_fishes · December 11, 2010, 12:05:18 PM

Read it, played it, run it. I love the town creation rules and advice--that is something I use in any RPG that I run. I like the way fallout works. The conflict mechanics can be a slog, though.

DKChannelBoredom · December 11, 2010, 12:42:08 PM

The "DiTV is not a roleplaying game" is getting old and lame. In the spirit of Christmas, put it back in the rpg forum, please.

Levi Kornelsen · December 11, 2010, 01:21:01 PM

Quote from: Elliot Wilen;425113So, Pundit, can the poll be made public? I think everyone's had fair warning.

It is. Click the poll numbers.

Rezendevous · December 11, 2010, 02:12:01 PM

Read my wife's copy; haven't played it.

And I'll second DKChannelBoredom.

Benoist · December 11, 2010, 02:40:59 PM

Quote from: DKChannelBoredom;425144The "DiTV is not a roleplaying game" is getting old and lame. In the spirit of Christmas, put it back in the rpg forum, please.

No.

Merry Christmas.

Cole · December 11, 2010, 02:51:55 PM

Quote from: Benoist;425178No.

Merry Christmas.

"Y'all can kiss my mistletoe."

arminius · December 11, 2010, 05:01:37 PM

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;425153It is. Click the poll numbers.

Ah, thanks.

Kyle Aaron · December 12, 2010, 05:46:54 AM

Quote from: DKChannelBoredom;425144The "DiTV is not a roleplaying game" is getting old and lame.

Of course it's a roleplaying game. It's a crap and depressing roleplaying game, but it is nonetheless a roleplaying game.

The only time a non-rpg masqueraded as an rpg here was that We All Had Names Scandanavian fruit loop guy. That wasn't a roleplaying game because it wasn't a game. A game requires uncertainty of outcome, and there was only one end for the characters, Treblinka. You could call it improv theatre or group therapy or something, but game it wasn't.

But Dogs certainly is an rpg. Just a very crap rpg.

Bedrockbrendan · December 12, 2010, 09:32:58 AM

Haven't played it. Haven't read it. Haven't said anything good or bad about it. What I've heard from people who have played it has been pretty divided. People either seem to really like it or really hate it.

Grymbok · December 12, 2010, 10:06:42 AM

Neither read nor played. The setting is definitely not my cup of tea, and what I understand of the mechanics isn't either. So no interest in the game whatsoever.

BWA · December 12, 2010, 10:41:09 PM

I have both read and played it on multiple occasions.

It's actually not a favorite of mine, which always makes me feel like I've missed something about it, given the high esteem in which it is held by so many. And I say this as someone who loves Vincent Baker's games ('In A Wicked Age' and 'Storming the Wizard's Tower' in particular).

I do think that, as a written text, 'Dogs in the Vineyard' is one of the best RPGs ever made. Just reading it changed the way I thought about role-playing games.

Also in the spirit of Christmas, if there is any interest, I will schedule and run a DitV game for any and all RPGsite members in the greater Washington area.

DeadUematsu · December 12, 2010, 10:55:24 PM

Played it multiple times years back, know the rules sufficiently.

PaladinCA · December 17, 2010, 12:11:00 PM

I've flipped through the rules and played a very well run game of it.

I think it is ass to not have it in the RPG section of this site, whether some people like to refer to it as a "story game" or not. It is an RPG.

And for the record, the angst about the whole Mormon thing is laughable. The game has about as much to do with real LDS people as Deadlands has to do with the historical American west.

Have you read and/or played Dogs in the Vineyard?

two_fishes