And we'll enjoy watching you starve to death.
Obviously the sentiment of a progressive, socially conscious voice.
My starving children thank you, for your beneficence.
You are hilarious. You're the guy that makes the anti-GG argument for them.
That they support criminals and engage in unethical behavior, including e-celebs like Adam Sessler and Jim Sterling enthusiastically supporting illegal doxxing?
Video from SGC2013Look, since you are struggling to get the (my) point. [You] are pointing at these guys' misdeeds, jumping up and down at their wrongdoing. And hey, for now, let's accept everything you say about that.
Apparently you also are missing
my point: I don't give a shit about these people, save for their misdeeds. The first committed criminal fraud. The second is a journalist giving favorable biased coverage to someone they're in a relationship with. They were living together.
Whether they're Black, Blue, LBGT, or glowing from radioactivity makes no difference to me. I'm
just interested in their legal and ethical failures, and seeing that corrected.
But you (GG) already lost any or all credibility. No-one's listening to anything legitimate you want them to hear, they just see the toxicity that pervades the GG camp. As much as you point fingers, you did that to yourselves.
Feel free to keep telling yourself that. After daft moves like #ShirtGate and the newly emerging #MetalGate, you'll actually find we're trending just fine, and actually jump after each media blitz to falsely paint us.
The fact you also cannot tell their are trolls on both sides, is quite telling. The difference between Pro-GG and Anti-GG, is our trolls don't write for major publications. :p
Take the list of names on the Secret Game Journos Email List. It's overwhelmingly male. And yet the high-profile people getting hurt by this mess, the people on your shitlist of bad behavior, are mostly not.
You mean the people Pro-GG has renamed "Literally Who?", in an attempt to bring the focus off of them. You'll forgive me, but the women you're mentioning are literally anti-GG's #NotYourShield, albeit built on just 4 women instead of hundreds of women and minorities.
I've been a gamer for probably longer than you've been alive, and you (GG) don't speak for me. I've always been a huge advocate for gamers and gaming (of all kinds), and this saga has sickened me. And I'm far from alone.
Unlikely; don't mean to speak for you, just me; I agree the nepotism and unethical behavior sickens me too; no, there is a fair following of people following both pro and anti-GG.
(KotakuInAction (pro-GG) has 22,513 subscribers, GamerGhazi (anti-GG) has 4077 subscribers)
The reason I referenced Felicia Day in the now-closed* thread is that her experience is a perfect example of the damage that has been done. Calling her prejudiced and whatnot is just so blinkered-defensive**. Her enjoyment of our hobby has been fundamentally damaged by the GamerGate saga. And to what end?
Yes, indeed; who makes money off this controversy?
Developers? No, most try to avoid controversy.
Gamers? Being called misogynistic basement-dwelling shitlords? Seems unlikely...
Journalists and "Cultural Commentary"? Oh, how they can create clickbait from this! Their victim status is self-supporting! How many have a Patreon...?
One doesn't need to be a pitchfork-waving SJW to know exactly where to point the finger of blame.
How about the ones actually engaged in unethical or criminal wrong-doing? And we don't paint everyone as an extremist within a movement (unless you truly believe all Muslims are terrorists)? I'm not saying every gaming journalist is an unethical hack; but the ones I know of wrong-doing, I am going to take to task.
**(Day's doxxing actually came after her post, for what it's worth. She was upset before that.).
Yes, I'm sure the fact she uses the same PR firm that represents several of the worst offenders of GamerGate, being personal friends with a number of anti-GG's, had
nothing to do with her position as well. :eek: