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#GamerGate: Fighting for a more ethical world

Started by ArrozConLeche, December 13, 2014, 11:51:48 AM

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Ratman_tf

#60
December 19, 2014, 11:10:04 PM Last Edit: December 19, 2014, 11:16:53 PM by Ratman_tf
Quote from: Will;805229Don't rush from one battle standard to another.

The problem with GG that you'll encounter in most spaces is that it is intimately tied with a lot of shit like:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/amazon-publishes-thinly-veiled-fantasy-of-gamergate-target-zoe-quinn/

And Felicia Day, and so on.

Trying to explain how you are a white supremacist but you aren't like THOSE white supremacists will pretty much sabotage things before you get a chance to explain how your approach isn't racist.

By that logic, anyone opposed to Gamergate is a nazi apologist who thinks that gassing women and minorities is a pretty swell idea.

https://twitter.com/geordie_tait/status/532253390470791168

You don't want to be on the side that thinks that kind of horrible stuff do you?
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Snowman0147

#61
December 20, 2014, 12:40:21 AM
Okay guys I think we should try to respect what the original poster wanted in this topic instead of going on into a shit slinging contest.

Warboss Squee

#62
December 20, 2014, 12:55:29 AM
Quote from: TrekkieBOB;805231Here's the thing about #GamerGate:

Having a discussion about the ethics of video game journalism and pushing for more transparency therein: You have my support.

Using the above as a reason to threaten anyone with rape, murder, violence or harassment: Go fuck yourself you stupid piece of shit.

Not shutting down the people who ARE doing the the second things: The Pope song says it all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTIorwtJbhE

Regards,

TrekkieBOB

It's a shame there isn't a group of GGs dedicated to reporting harassment that uses the hashtag on twitter and reddit.

Oh wait...there totally is.

jeff37923

#63
December 20, 2014, 02:25:35 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf;805250By that logic, anyone opposed to Gamergate is a nazi apologist who thinks that gassing women and minorities is a pretty swell idea.

https://twitter.com/geordie_tait/status/532253390470791168

You don't want to be on the side that thinks that kind of horrible stuff do you?

You are forgetting that intellectual honesty in a discussion is not in Will's bag of tricks.
"Meh."

Cosmic Mind

#64
December 24, 2014, 03:00:35 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf;805250By that logic, anyone opposed to Gamergate is a nazi apologist who thinks that gassing women and minorities is a pretty swell idea.

https://twitter.com/geordie_tait/status/532253390470791168

You don't want to be on the side that thinks that kind of horrible stuff do you?


Jesus christ...that's just fucking horrible

Warboss Squee

#65
December 24, 2014, 06:30:46 AM
Quote from: Cosmic Mind;805853Jesus christ...that's just fucking horrible

Heh, that's pretty mild from what I've seen.

Guess who came out in favor of doxxing?  Give you a hint, it wasn't someone on the GG side of the fence.

Novastar

#66
December 24, 2014, 09:10:00 PM
I love how Wil Wheaton is advocating no more anonymity on the Internet.

Yes, Chinese social activist fleeing gov't persecution, asking for basic civil and/or social rights; your cause is infinitely less important than my internet friends getting nasty messages.

F*** off to the Gulag, Liu! My friend with Blue hair got a salty message! :mad:
Quote from: dragoner;776244Mechanical character builds remind me of something like picking the shoe in monopoly, it isn\'t what I play rpg\'s for.

Iosue

#67
December 24, 2014, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: Novastar;805969I love how Wil Wheaton is advocating no more anonymity on the Internet.

Yes, Chinese social activist fleeing gov't persecution, asking for basic civil and/or social rights; your cause is infinitely less important than my internet friends getting nasty messages.

F*** off to the Gulag, Liu! My friend with Blue hair got a salty message! :mad:
Except that he's only advocating no more anonymity in gaming communities, and specifically notes the necessity of anonymity for folks like "Liu."

His suggestion may not be especially feasible, but he's certainly not saying what you're saying he's saying.

Ladybird

#68
December 25, 2014, 10:36:14 AM
Person protesting against corrupt government regime, needs anonymity.

Person sending death threat to developer because a gun in Call of Duty 2013 now fires slightly slower, not so much.
one two FUCK YOU

Ratman_tf

#69
December 27, 2014, 02:48:00 AM
Quote from: Iosue;805972Except that he's only advocating no more anonymity in gaming communities, and specifically notes the necessity of anonymity for folks like "Liu."

His suggestion may not be especially feasible, but he's certainly not saying what you're saying he's saying.

I think what he's saying is that the people he approves of deserve anonymity, and those grimy gamer plebs can fuck right off.

But I don't give Mr. Wheaton much benefit of the doubt nowadays.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

TristramEvans

#70
December 27, 2014, 03:29:28 AM
When did any nerd on the planet start caring what WESLEY thinks?

Shut up, Wesley.

Novastar

#71
December 27, 2014, 04:36:08 AM
Quote from: TristramEvans;806250When did any nerd on the planet start caring what WESLEY thinks?

Shut up, Wesley.
"My name is Wil Wheaton; Jack Thompson can suck my balls!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwN76P4B6Ts
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/pax-07-wheaton-keynote-celebrates-social-gaming/1100-6177605/
It's the keynote that launched Wheaton's Law: "Don't be a dick."

How far we have fallen, in 7-8 years...
Quote from: dragoner;776244Mechanical character builds remind me of something like picking the shoe in monopoly, it isn\'t what I play rpg\'s for.

TristramEvans

#72
December 27, 2014, 04:55:02 AM
Followed up by Dustin Diamond's "Don't be a vagina" I suppose

Bradford C. Walker

#73
December 27, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
For the pro-GG side you can count on Sargon of Akkad to either produce his own stuff advancing the goal or covering others' efforts. His "This Week in Stupid" videos alone are hilarious.

TristramEvans

#74
December 27, 2014, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: Bradford C. Walker;806342For the pro-GG side you can count on Sargon of Akkad to either produce his own stuff advancing the goal or covering others' efforts. His "This Week in Stupid" videos alone are hilarious.

I like his stuff. Menaing I find it entertaining. I'm not one of those fellows that has to agree with everything a person says to find them entertaining. He's got a nice voice and a good sense of humour, and his opening video where he cuts together his critics's attacks on him is hilarious.
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