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Custodes down along with GW stock! [Warhammer, culture war, yada yada]

Started by Ratman_tf, April 14, 2024, 08:56:10 PM

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Ratman_tf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW0PZy5UvlY

GW retcons female Custodes, gaslights fans that there were female Custodes all along...
GW stonks fall. Coinkydink?

For those who don't know 40k, the Custodes were one of the Emprah's many genetic engineering projects along with the Thunder Warriors and Space Marines. So this is within spitting distance of retconning Female Space Marines.
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Zenoguy3

Honestly, I'm not surprised. I'd hoped they would hold to their actual lore rather than bend to antifans, but that ship seems to have very well sailed now.

On the bright side GW has thus officially laid down the authority to dictate 40K lore, now we just have to make sure 40K survives and doesn't wither under the shadow of WorkshopK like Star Wars did under the shadow of DisneyWars. GW is just about as litigious as the mouse though, so we'll have to see.

yosemitemike

There is no point in doing this beyond trying to appeal to people who don't, never have and never will give a flying fuck about Warhammer 40k beyond using it to virtue signal.  That giant chunky figure in the ornate armor that looks just like the rest is a woman.  Okay.  Women can play Custodes now because representation?  They couldn't before because GW hadn't said that some of those are supposed to be women even though they all look the same?    What they really want is to force GW to retcon female space marines.  That's what they have been trying to force the entire time.  That's the popular thing that people actually know about.  This is just the foot in the door.     
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Wrath of God

Custodes always were for me uncessary double in world of SM, so I can only hope this will end with financial crash and retroactive retconning Custodes existence from all lore.
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Neoplatonist1

Would female space marines be just as strong as male space marines, even though they have less muscle mass? Do they have special "girly" muscles that are more efficient than boy muscles? If so, why couldn't the male space marines get their muscles replaced with girly muscles and so become even stronger than before?

Ratman_tf

mmm. Girl boss Space Marines going around the galaxy defeating the xenos. Putting Chaos in it's place and reforming the Imperium to be more include and diversive while showing up those bumbling guy Space Marines.
It sells itself!
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Wrath of God

QuoteWould female space marines be just as strong as male space marines, even though they have less muscle mass? Do they have special "girly" muscles that are more efficient than boy muscles? If so, why couldn't the male space marines get their muscles replaced with girly muscles and so become even stronger than before?

Oh for fuck sake, take your dirty realism from my Warhammer 40k you pleb.
Thing is - Space Marines are artificially designed super-humans implanted with more bio-artifice than anything. Enough bio-artifice to make them suddenly look bit like clones of their Primarchs. Their muscle mass is so big it makes real life man-woman difference to be negligible.

If we wanna take logic of WH40k, as it is there are two reasons it should not exist: a) it was stated in lore the implants works only with men so it would be retcon b) and more meta - considering how SM mutation change men, it's quite obvious space marine woman if possible would look very much like male Space Marine.
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"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"


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DonJonKeeper

Nah, my head canon remains that Custodes are ripped men with oiled abs, cloaks, and suspiciously Eldar looking helmets as per Rogue Trader.

BoxCrayonTales

If you're genuinely upset about this, then make your own IP. I don't like GW's business practices anyway, so I'd support you for that reason alone

Zenoguy3

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on April 16, 2024, 08:56:17 PMIf you're genuinely upset about this, then make your own IP. I don't like GW's business practices anyway, so I'd support you for that reason alone

Nah, now, in all ways except legal, 40K belongs to the community now. GW are the ones that made a new IP, they just are using a name for something else that they own copyright for. I'll just keep liking 40K instead of this new thing.

oggsmash

Bad move IMO.  3D printing is pretty good now.  People are upset I think not so much for one retcon...but for the signal about the future it sends (we all get to see through corporate actions how much stock is in BR and Vanguard hands).  The people really responsible for the change are in a full on culture war and will never, ever stop.  I hope GW suffers for it.

David Johansen

Custodes suck and puting girls in won't change that either way.

Give me Rogue Trader era Custodes with their shirts off and maybe we can talk reasonabley.

I think the most telling thing about the "there should be female space marines" camp is that they've been whining about it for eight edtions now.  There were some "female space marine models in the Rogue Trader Adventurers range.  What they were called, I do not know but you couldn't complain they didn't exist at the time.
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Greetings!

*SIGH*. Let Games Workshop burn to the ground. Let them choke. I have some sympathy for some players--I, myself, was a fan and customer, long ago.

Yes, I invested in the first edition of GW's Epic Space Marine. So, 40K, but in 6mm or 15mm. Whatever mm the armies were. Just mass scale sized armies. I had Imperial Guard, Space Marines, Eldar, Chaos, and Tyranids. 5,000 Point Armies for each. Yes, that is huge. I invested literally thousands of dollars into that game.

Then, one day, Games Workshop decided to choke on shit, and cancel the entire game. *SNAP* Just like that. No more miniatures, no more articles, no more books, no more tournaments. DONE.

I at the time said fuck Games Workshop. They can bathe in napalm.

I have never bought a Games Workshop game since then.

They are a greedy, selfish, careless, and inconsiderate company. On top of those sparkling virtues, they are now also Woke.

So, yeah. I have some sympathy for GW gamers, but geesus. Wake the fuck up. This company jerks off on their customers with just about every game system they do, every two or three years. Stop being a fucking bitch. Stop being stupid. Stop patronizing Games Workshop and giving them your money.

Choose to patronize other companies that yes, are more moral than Games Workshop, companies that treat their customers with more consideration and respect--respect for them as people, respect for their customers preferences, devotion, time, and money.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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Krazz

The GW Official account on X said "There have always been female Custodians".

Anyone else get "Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia" vibes from it? I thought 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a guide book.