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Conan Boardgame Kickstarter

Started by Skywalker, January 22, 2015, 09:01:16 PM

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daniel_ream

Quote from: Spinachcat;933553One was that you has X turns to complete the mission, but if you went beyond turn X, then the Dragon would arrive and the Dragon was a horrific killing machine. So, the X turns was not without merit.

I have probably a dozen miniatures wargames rule sets that contain asymmetric scenarios with a win condition of "if X does not happen within Y turns, Side B loses".

QuoteI am kinda confused how these scenarios got past so many playtesters.

The more thematic a game is, the less likely anyone will catch optimization errors.  Hell, as a counter-example M&M 2nd edition was out for something like four years and being played heavily before someone noticed that if you bought all your core stats down to zero and bought the bonuses they gave back up using other mechanics present in the system you'd net out to +10-15 points.
D&D is becoming Self-Referential.  It is no longer Setting Referential, where it takes references outside of itself. It is becoming like Ouroboros in its self-gleaning for tropes, no longer attached, let alone needing outside context.
~ Opaopajr

Doom

#91
The fourth scenario pits Conan & Pals against a horde of Picts. They must protect a priestess from casting a ritual before the Picts fight their way past the heroes and kill her.

It's the most interesting scenario because it doesn't always play the same way every time. The Picts must first break down barriers to get into the village (curiously enough, if they break the wall too quickly, the heroes are more likely to win). There's actually about a 0.15% chance (I did the math) the heroes will win because of a really fast ritual casting on the very first chance it could be cast, and around a 20% chance (mostly a guess, but it happened twice in 10 games) it'll happen from a quick casting on the second chance...the third chance is a near certainty (never happened, but the Overlord's pretty much lost at that point anyway).

Past the "pure luck" aspect, things are hard for the heroes. The wizard is chucking a fireball every round, as the hordes close in--fun, but still obnoxious for a Conan game. Conan can "pull a Denner" and bash down a wall to provide easier access to the priestess--the rules say if "anyone" in her space at the beginning of the Overlord's (Pict's) turn she dies. Putting the hole in the makes it easier to get in, but when a Pict does go in, a hero needs to move in, kill the Pict, and then move out, and that's when the hole really pays (you pay 1 point to move through the hole, but 2 points to move through a door).

If Zogar Sag somehow makes it to the priestess' space, that's basically game over, as he's tough to kill in a oneshot unless Conan's had a few hard swings at him.

Alas, it's Christmas and I must travel, so no Conan for a while. Arg.
(taken during hurricane winds)

A nice education blog.

Motorskills

I'm getting mine pro-painted, hopefully people will still be playing it when I get it back all shiny! :)
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crkrueger

Quote from: Motorskills;936492I'm getting mine pro-painted, hopefully people will still be playing it when I get it back all shiny! :)

What service are you using or is it a local painter?
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

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crkrueger

Quote from: Doom;936399(curiously enough, if they break the wall too quickly, the heroes are more likely to win). There's actually about a 0.15% chance (I did the math) the heroes will win because of a really fast ritual casting on the very first chance it could be cast, and around a 20% chance (mostly a guess, but it happened twice in 10 games) it'll happen from a quick casting on the second chance...the third chance is a near certainty (never happened, but the Overlord's pretty much lost at that point anyway).

Conan can "pull a Denner" and bash down a wall to provide easier access to the priestess--the rules say if "anyone" in her space at the beginning of the Overlord's (Pict's) turn she dies. Putting the hole in the makes it easier to get in, but when a Pict does go in, a hero needs to move in, kill the Pict, and then move out, and that's when the hole really pays (you pay 1 point to move through the hole, but 2 points to move through a door).

It's kind of funny, but this sounds like like 4e to me.  Strategies based on boardgame interactions created by rules designed to give a tactical challenge without concerning what they represent in the setting of the game itself.  Of course, it's a boardgame, not an RPG, so that's fine, but the game seems quite open to...I'll be kind and say "Un-Conanlike" strategies.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Doom

Well, it *is* a boardgame. I do concede "bash a hole in the wall because the hole is easier to navigate than the door" is more game-y than "have the giant snake guard the princess."
(taken during hurricane winds)

A nice education blog.

Motorskills

Quote from: CRKrueger;936493What service are you using or is it a local painter?

A bit of both. :)

It's is full-time job (a service I suppose?), but I met the guy face to face in Mexico to walk through the project. Very impressed with Bernardo's skills. The lovely Claudia provides the translations :)
"Gosh it's so interesting (profoundly unsurprising) how men with all these opinions about women's differentiation between sexual misconduct, assault and rape reveal themselves to be utterly tone deaf and as a result, systemically part of the problem." - Minnie Driver, December 2017

" Using the phrase "virtue signalling" is \'I\'m a sociopath\' signalling ". J Wright, July 2018

Chainsaw

Quote from: Motorskills;936968A bit of both. :)
It's is full-time job (a service I suppose?), but I met the guy face to face in Mexico to walk through the project. Very impressed with Bernardo's skills. The lovely Claudia provides the translations :)
Wow, seems pretty badass. What's he charge for a typical D&D mini?

Motorskills

Quote from: Chainsaw;936975Wow, seems pretty badass. What's he charge for a typical D&D mini?

The Conan miniatures are small, and I am giving him hundreds of them, so obviously I'm getting a bulk deal, but here are some of his prices:.

QuoteStandard figures of the 32 mm depends on the complexity and the detail the client request: 6usd - 8usd
Special figures like Personage: 13usd - 15usd
Props: 2usd - 3usd

I think that's pretty standard across the world, but you might be able to cut a better deal, with the peso so far in the tank as it is.
"Gosh it's so interesting (profoundly unsurprising) how men with all these opinions about women's differentiation between sexual misconduct, assault and rape reveal themselves to be utterly tone deaf and as a result, systemically part of the problem." - Minnie Driver, December 2017

" Using the phrase "virtue signalling" is \'I\'m a sociopath\' signalling ". J Wright, July 2018